Storr to Transfer

[OOTClone]

I actually don't mind that group. Heil is probably the toughest by far. Curious how Parker/Simmons does against Alber

Agreed. I don't view that group as too large of a task for any of the possible new 141's. I view those opponents as great opportunities to get an upset or 2 of some mid-range guys at the weight, and to see how the new starter will be able to compete.
Will Parker's resume at 133 carry over to 141? If not, that will take away a possibility of a qualifier slot and he will have to steal someone's at Big 12's, which is a good possibility anyways.

 

[buf87]

Agreed. I don't view that group as too large of a task for any of the possible new 141's. I view those opponents as great opportunities to get an upset or 2 of some mid-range guys at the weight, and to see how the new starter will be able to compete.
Will Parker's resume at 133 carry over to 141? If not, that will take away a possibility of a qualifier slot and he will have to steal someone's at Big 12's, which is a good possibility anyways.

I think most RPI etc are at qualifying weight only. So he wouldn't make the 18 matches to qualify for an RPI. Judoka knows this stuff better than I do

 

[crablegs]

I actually don't mind that group. Heil is probably the toughest by far. Curious how Parker/Simmons does against Alber

Agreed. I think Parker/Simmons have the ability to hang with or possibly beat a Longo or Alber (never been super impressed with Alber. He's solid, but not special imo). Heil is a different story.

 

[SouthJerseyCy]

Degen is the best starter.

I don't know if I'd say that definitively. There is a large gap between the competition that each has faced. 141 is a brutal weight & Degan has lost to the only 2 ranked wrestlers he's faced. Totally unnecessary speculation as I have no inside info, but is it possible Storr wanted to move up now so that he and Parker were at their more natural weights, but staff would not allow it?

 

[Judoka]

I think most RPI etc are at qualifying weight only. So he wouldn't make the 18 matches to qualify for an RPI. Judoka knows this stuff better than I do

I am pretty sure RPI and win percentage only take current weight class in to account but the Pre-championship manual doesn't have language to specifically clarify that. The only thing it specifically says is that you have to have a minimum of 8 matches in your weight class - which could matter since we only have 7 duals left so to get to 8 matches they'd have to swing by an open tournament and we have no open weekends left before allocations are announced.

From the manual (.pdf, on pages 12 and 13):
On Feb. 21, wrestlers in each weight class will be measured on the following: winning percentage (Win %), rating percentage index (RPI) and coaches’ ranking (CR). Win % is defined as Division I wins divided by total Division I matches contested. RPI is defined as Win %*, opponents’ Win %*, opponents’ opponents’ Win % (17-match minimum). CR is defined as the weight class-specific ranking as determined by the NCAA Division I Wrestling Coaches Ranking Panel.

Wrestlers must also have wrestled a minimum of eight matches at the championships weight class. Wrestlers who meet or exceed threshold levels for all three measures will be labeled “Gold Standard.” Wrestlers who meet or exceed threshold levels for any two of the three measures will be labeled “Silver Standard.” All Gold and Silver Standard wrestlers will earn a qualifier position for their respective weight class at their respective qualifying event. If a wrestler earns a Gold or Silver Standard label and does not compete in his conference or regional qualifying tournament, the qualifier position that was earned by this wrestler for his qualifying event will revert to the at-large pool, unless the wrestler who earned the qualifier position is replaced by a wrestler who also meets or exceeds the threshold levels for that respective weight class. If a qualifying event does not have any Gold Standard or Silver Standard wrestlers at a weight class, one qualifier position will be allocated for that qualifying event’s champion at that weight class. The committee will allocate the number of eligible automatic qualifiers of the 330 championships field using the primary formula. Threshold levels may slide up or down in concert (i.e., slide up to .800 Win %, top 20 RPI and top 20 CR or slide down to .700 Win %, top 30 RPI and top 30 CR) to achieve a total number of automatic qualifiers in the desired range. The maximum number of pre-allocations per weight class shall be 29.

 

[Judoka]

You need 5 matches at the weight class to have a coaches panel ranking, and 8 matches at the weight class to be eligible for an allocation. So I read that as you need 8 matches before they'll look at your win percentage. They're silent about RPI but it makes sense for them to only consider matches at your current weight class. But I could be wrong about that.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I read this as "Solo" first and had a heart-attack.

 

[buf87]

I don't know if I'd say that definitively. There is a large gap between the competition that each has faced. 141 is a brutal weight & Degan has lost to the only 2 ranked wrestlers he's faced. Totally unnecessary speculation as I have no inside info, but is it possible Storr wanted to move up now so that he and Parker were at their more natural weights, but staff would not allow it?

I don't think that is the case about the weight change. I don't think Storr gelled with the staff.

Degen is doing what we want all of our wrestlers to do. Storr did sometimes and sometimes did not.

 

[csteve]

Anyone have any insider info? This comes at a huge shock to me.

It's obviously too bad, but is what it is. He was recruited by the Paulson's and is very close with them. He wanted to follow them initially, but chose to stay because of other relationships in Ames. Since he doesn't see eye to eye with the new staff, the negative of staying in Ames finally outweighed the positives.

 

[ca4cy]

The timing of this was never going to be great and it may end up costing us a national qualifier this year, but I honestly think this stings less now from a perception standpoint than it would have last year if it happened at the same time we were losing Allar, Verkleeren and Smith.

We'll survive and the guys who get an opportunity at ISU as a result will be better for it.

 

[NEICyFan]

I think Parker is solid with Iowa State. I think the weight cut gets to him. Dresser and staff always has great things to say about Parker's work ethics. Perfect situation for him, he gets to go to 141. Maybe Storr wasn't happy and quit mid season to allow his friend to go to 141. Especially is Parker is happy at Iowa State and Storr is not

Parker has not been happy with how they have handled 133. That doesn't mean he's leaving too, or he doesn't like the staff overall, but he doesn't think the opportunities have been fair--right or wrong.

Well that really sucks but it breaks up the log jam from 33-57 a little though. Now Ian can wrestle at his more natural weight assuming he doesn't bail too. Losing Storr is not something I would have predicted and I'm definitely bummed but have to try to find the silver lining.

There's no "log jam" here. Having bodies does not equal "log jam." You have/had a bunch of guys average to above and maybe 1-2 that have a high probability of being an AA. Storr was supposed to be the best of the bunch. The reason this hurts worse is that he was supposed to be part of the foundation.

At the end of the day, 1 guy doesn't make that big of a difference and we have the right guy running this program. I'm not totally sold on the entire staff as a whole, but I have faith in the man in charge and that over time he will make the right moves to make us successful. Have faith!

 

[VirginSturgeon]

At the end of the day, 1 guy doesn't make that big of a difference and we have the right guy running this program. I'm not totally sold on the entire staff as a whole, but I have faith in the man in charge and that over time he will make the right moves to make us successful. Have faith![/QUOTE]

I would like you to elaborate on this paragraph. Leaves a lot of thoughts open, love the man in charge but not his ability to choose a staff? Or he needs to make changes to the coaching staff already?

 

[Judoka]

We also don't know if this was Storr's decision or not. For all we know he told the staff he was going to transfer after the season was over and was told to pack up his locker.

 

[OOTClone]

At the end of the day, 1 guy doesn't make that big of a difference and we have the right guy running this program. I'm not totally sold on the entire staff as a whole, but I have faith in the man in charge and that over time he will make the right moves to make us successful. Have faith!

I would like you to elaborate on this paragraph. Leaves a lot of thoughts open, love the man in charge but not his ability to choose a staff? Or he needs to make changes to the coaching staff already?[/QUOTE]
Going to take a guess at this and say the poster doesn't like Zadick, St John, and/or Metcalf.

 

[buf87]

No change in the staff is needed.
Zadick runs the practices.
Metcalf works a lot with Coleman, Straw, etc
St John, I think works with Degen, Bush, etc. (probably some of taller guys)

My opinion is from watching workout videos and also who is doing most of the coaching while certain guys are wrestling

 

[VirginSturgeon]

Is there anyway to listen to the last night's call in show with Dresser? I searched and can't find a podcast or anything on my Cyclone TV subscription? Was curious to listen.

 

[buf87]

Is there anyway to listen to the last night's call in show with Dresser? I searched and can't find a podcast or anything on my Cyclone TV subscription? Was curious to listen.

It was there yesterday live, but don't see it now.

This is the only comment I seen from the show

Jacqueline‏ @JacquelineCord 22h22 hours ago

"Kanen's a great kid. It's just a situation where he came to us and he has relationships out there and he wants a fresh start to start somewhere else," said head coach Kevin Dresser on tonight's coaches show.

 

[buf87]

Cyclone Fanatic podcast

https://cyclonefanatic.com/podcasts...he-recent-happenings-in-iowa-state-wrestling/

 

[jkbuff98]

Is there anyway to listen to the last night's call in show with Dresser? I searched and can't find a podcast or anything on my Cyclone TV subscription? Was curious to listen.

Mediacom schedule for CyTv says replay tomorrow at 9pm

 

[NEICyFan]

At the end of the day, 1 guy doesn't make that big of a difference and we have the right guy running this program. I'm not totally sold on the entire staff as a whole, but I have faith in the man in charge and that over time he will make the right moves to make us successful. Have faith!

I would like you to elaborate on this paragraph. Leaves a lot of thoughts open, love the man in charge but not his ability to choose a staff? Or he needs to make changes to the coaching staff already?[/QUOTE]

I don't view the coaching staff as static. Dresser is here for the long haul and I think over time they are evaluated and the staff is tweaked as he sees fit. I'm not a big fan of St. John and especially Zadick and I think Metcalf is largely unproven from a coaching standpoint. Zadick has been grilled on here over the years on here and other ISU boards and for good reason.

However, I also recognize that I'm just a fan with an opinion and such opinions are a dime a dozen...and I could just plain be wrong. I love Dresser and I trust he will get us there. I just don't expect a smooth ride.