***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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I have no jimlad available, so I'm not sure if some aren't liking my sarcasm, or not catching the reference. UCF is coached by Scott Frost, who, depending on the version of the story, hid under the bed, or in the closet. This, while the late, fellow former Husker legend Lawrence Phillips beat the $h!t out of his ex Kate McEwan, whom Frost was doing.
No there isn't..The fact that you even mentioned the SEC tells me all I need to know..Big 12 dies and it is a flip of a coin whether ISU survives conf. Realignment..There is no guarantee. We are not Nebraska or even Iowa in fball and this is 100% about fball. Like I've said if this conf dissolves pray that we maintain AAU status cause that might be the only thing that saves us. The only scenerio would be the PAC. ACC is at 15 with ND and they would geographically and TV wise prob add Uconn or the like. SEC would add OU and OSU likely. BIG would add KU and TX and if TX goes Independent. Clearly it seems the PAC has shown some interest in Houston and for good reason it gets them into a huge tv market that they do not have and a diff time zone.
Any way..saying you don't mind if the if the big 12 dies is not something I would want to have happen for any ISU fan or for ISU.
I think they're contractually obligated to join the ACC if they decide to join any conference within the next X years (I don't know what X is)
Yes they are, but that doesn't mean they will. There is no reason for them to join. And X is about 20.
Yeah, I don't think they join any conference either - unless the whole system goes to 4x16 and the rules are changed such that unless you are part of that system your relevancy goes down the toilet. In that scenario I think absolutely ND joins a conference, and then, as discussed, they're contractually obligated to join the ACC. Unless, of course, they do what ND traditionally does - think they're above the system, but this time they get left on the outside looking in.
ND won't join a conference until they lose a seat at the table. Right now, all P5 schools get represented by the conference. ND gets their own, singular voice at the table along side other P5 conferences. Once that's taken away, they will join a conference.
Grab youself a map man, because Houston is in the central time zone. In the race to 16, the PAC isn't going to have many great options. Just look at this list of B12 candidates to see what is our there. Tough to find 4 better than ISU, especially after the SEC, B1G, and ACC take the top picks.
When is it the 17 presentations were to be made and a decision released? To me if the Big12 has been approved to have a Championship Game then no hurry to add teams - UH and UC and others will be there in another year or two. If there are cracks starting to form in the PAC12 give them more time to develop and see what happens.
There isn't as much time as you think. If the goal is to have 12 teams before the start of next season, the schools we select need to notify their conference as soon as possible, at least one year notice. So with that goal in mind. They would need to let their conference know during this football season.
In order to play a CCG the conference isn't required to have 12 teams is it? I know it makes more sense to add teams and split into divisions but it's not required - correct?
You are correct, but the timetable the big12 has set is that they would like 12 teams by the time we start the conference title game.
Now that Olympics have captured everyone in America's attention and NFL scrimmage games are on the fleecing of the public can begin - back room deals and cigar smoke will pour out of every orifice as OU and UT take all the B12 members to the woodshed and get whatever the hell they want. Otherwise it is death knell for the B12. ISU/KSU and WVU trying to use GoR as a weapon for non-expansion? Hah - how about you guys looking at no P5 membership in 8 years? UT - no expansion and no Cincy ? How about no LHN as we bolt to SEC? This is all run by OU - they are calling shots as UT needs them to keep fallacy of a good conference alive. Remember - Nebby/TAM ? They were all in on the unequal revenue sharing with OU/UT. It was like George Orwell's 1984 - some are more equal than others. It is still that way and what OU wants they will get cause UT wants that $225 million from ESPN. Still think BYU/Cincy as OU favors them. HOU and CSU/Memphis can wait till 2018 or later. The list of juco schools on that list have either got the tv execs and P5 conferences laughing or crying or both.
If UT and OU are influentiaI power brokers in the Big12, they are not going to allow their early season rivalry game determine if they play in the Big12 Championship game. Also, they would not allow a system which guarantees that only 1 can make the championship game.
There could be a system as proposed by Pollard, which doesn't have set divisions. Instead divisions will be reshuffled every couple years based on historical records.
Another option is set up a schedule in a 12 team conference where a team plays the other 5 teams in their division, 1 protected rivaly game with a team in the other division and 3 games against other teams in that division.
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