What did McKay d this time?

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Go look through my post history. I've posted insider stuff for 3 or 4 years. This I don't find particularly appropriate to post, on Mckays behalf.

I find the panties in a wad 'waaaaah, why you don't tell me????' Posts to be the worst.

'I know but won't say' sometimes looks a bit, off, but I won't blame anyone showing a little discretion on what to post on a public message board.
 
IF McKay isn't all in (I have no idea), F it, let's go all out Offense-No D. Our defense sucks anyway.

The high-low game between Burton and George last night was as good as we've seen all season. Burton had some nice feeds in to Georges last night. And anything that results in Niang getting more shots is something I support.
 
First, I find it incredible that there is a 22 page thread on this (in less than 24 hours) from all of us who know absolutely nothing about what happened, or if some of us do, we can't say. But then it is CF.

Back to the original question, I am guessing part of it is his lack of performance against Baylor, and maybe his performance in practice. From the way Prohm handled it, I'm guessing that McKay has just not adjusted his attitude to the point that Prohm and staff want to see it adjusted, and he is still on the **** list.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure (or confident) that a "message sent" this late in the season can affect the desired change in attitude, especially in a Senior who has shown the lack of maturity McKay has shown.
 
Everyone will find out sooner or later so you might as well tell us now

If I did what he did, I'd rather everyone not know. In the grand scheme of things, it's not really that important.
 
I find the panties in a wad 'waaaaah, why you don't tell me????' Posts to be the worst.

'I know but won't say' sometimes looks a bit, off, but I won't blame anyone showing a little discretion on what to post on a public message board.
For me, the issue isn't that WallenIz is showing discretion. Apparently he knows but isn't telling people because it's a little embarrassing. That is a good thing. At the same time, I then think it's dumb to post "I know, but I'm not going to say anything because I'm exercising good discretion". Just don't post anything at all. Maybe I missed the post, but it would be different if someone posted something like, "Hey WallenIz, have you heard anything?"
 
I just got to the bottom of why he didn't play. I'm not going to post, but I'm pretty sure if we had played Kansas yesterday he would have played. I'd be pretty shocked if he didn't play Monday.

Thanks Wallen, appreciate your investigation. I really don't need to know what happen. Given your knowledge and previous posting, if you're not worried about it, then I won't either.
 
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I would too, just by how much the local media members have been whining on Twitter
And when they finally find out what happened, they will act like they knew it all the time. (From well placed, almost double diget resources). I really don't know why this is such a big deal to all of the media, kxno will be all over it tomorrow.
 
Wut? If Hoiberg were here, McKay wouldn't even be facing any disciplinary action. Guys could do whatever they wanted when Fred was here.

Did Hoiberg ever answer why BDJ didn't play in the 2nd half against UAB? I don't remember him having to explain that? Did Hoiberg ever come out and say... "yeah BDJ was being a jerk at halftime yelling at coaches, so we sat him"? I don't remember it if he did. He just swept it under the rug, but didn't have to explain it.

Fred not being a disciplinarian cost us that UAB for sure. No doubt in my mind. But yet, you're saying Fred was such a good disciplinarian? Uhhhh no.

It is pretty interesting the waxing and waning of some fan's perspectives and expectations from coach to coach isn't it?
 
We have lost several close games (3 in OT) and yet are ranked #13 in the country. Heading for a 3/4 seed in the NCAA tournament.

What kind of unrealistic fan thinks we have drastically underachieved?
 
If I was McCay I'd pull my craps together because Buttons minutes are only going to increase when he is looking like the beast he has shown.
 
ICCYFAN, I guess many others have pointed out that it really is Prohm's program; his job rests on how well the team does. And if you watch him during games, you can tell he is very well aware that the MBB team belongs to ISU and the fans. And he gets reminded of this fact over and over, I am sure. But it is his program in the sense that he is fully responsible for its performance and its results.

I am getting really, really tired of itinerant - and even regular - posters referring to Prohm's team as "under-performing." Please help me to understand compared to what? Yes, there were high expectations for this team at the start of the season, and rightfully so. But, when Naz went down and then it became clear that for whatever reason, McKay was not going to repeat as B12 Defensive Player of the Year - or even come close - people seemed to hold the same expectations. That is the biggest disappointment to me - not the record of this team - but that unreasonable fans think that without Naz and with a hugely under performing McKay, this team would keep the same expectations. That makes no sense at all.


My goodness but people are being literal this morning! Yes, as the well-compensated custodian of our program, Steve Prohm is responsible for its performance and results, and he's answerable for such. I didn't say anything to suggest I believed otherwise. Friends of the program Fran Fraschilla and Randy Peterson are questioning the way this drama has unfolded - I'm doing the same...

As for your second point, every single team in the Big XII has dealt with injuries and under-performing players. It's expected and therefore not a reason to adjust expectations - you don't hear any players making this excuse...

We all love the ISU basketball PROGRAM; most are of the opinion that positive contributions from Jameel McKay are essential for this team to make a deep NCAA tournament run. Steve Prohm is a young coach. Why is it heretical to question Steve Prohm's handling of Jameel McKay this season?

Postscript: I was listening to XM college sports radio this week as I drove home from Chicago and fans were questioning the top coaches in the game, ie) a UNC fan was unhappy that Roy Williams had moved Marcus Paige to SG. It's not unique to ISU - it happens everywhere, assuming fans are invested.
 
We have lost several close games (3 in OT) and yet are ranked #13 in the country. Heading for a 3/4 seed in the NCAA tournament.

What kind of unrealistic fan thinks we have drastically underachieved?

The funniest thing about the whole year is the DMR reporting a "focus on defense" in practice prior to the season = we're going to be good at defense and Prohm is a defensive coach per fans. People still aren't grasping the difference.
 
The funniest thing about the whole year is the DMR reporting a "focus on defense" in practice prior to the season = we're going to be good at defense and Prohm is a defensive coach per fans. People still aren't grasping the difference.

I never did understand why everyone, including the media, thought Prohm was going to be some kind of Eustachy, or Tony Bennett. That's just not who he is, or his style, and it's definitely not these players' style. There's nothing wrong with that, other than expecting something that is not possible.

The only optimism I felt toward better defense, was that I felt Prohm would actually practice it, and make players be accountable. Which is more than Fred did.
 
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