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It was for the better of all that way. If I got out of hand, there's trained professionals there with rifles and tranquilizer darts.


Plus, on your part, wise move...going up against this:

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surely helps that 'handsome' thing you're trying to claim.
 
Trying to pull the trigger on buying a more economical car. I told the salesman in an email to give me $X for my trade in and an out the door price of $Y on their car. He said it looked reasonable and to come take a look at the car. I did on Saturday. The car was pretty much what I expected, except for a few more scratches than I anticipated. But it seemed to drive fine and everything worked. It'll probably need new tires within a year and be due for its 100k mile service. So then I sit down with him and we talk numbers. He says $Y+300 for the car and $X for my trade in. I said we discussed $Y and $X. Then he offers $Y and $X-200, and says he's giving me another $100. He hands me his printed out offer and it really ends up being $Y+400 after their added fees and $X-200 for my trade in. He says he can't do any better. Should I stand firm on my initial offer? They originally had the car marked at $Y+1900. The $X for my trade in is in the range of what I'd expect for it.

I hate dealing with car salesmen.
 
Trying to pull the trigger on buying a more economical car. I told the salesman in an email to give me $X for my trade in and an out the door price of $Y on their car. He said it looked reasonable and to come take a look at the car. I did on Saturday. The car was pretty much what I expected, except for a few more scratches than I anticipated. But it seemed to drive fine and everything worked. It'll probably need new tires within a year and be due for its 100k mile service. So then I sit down with him and we talk numbers. He says $Y+300 for the car and $X for my trade in. I said we discussed $Y and $X. Then he offers $Y and $X-200, and says he's giving me another $100. He hands me his printed out offer and it really ends up being $Y+400 after their added fees and $X-200 for my trade in. He says he can't do any better. Should I stand firm on my initial offer? They originally had the car marked at $Y+1900. The $X for my trade in is in the range of what I'd expect for it.

I hate dealing with car salesmen.

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Trying to pull the trigger on buying a more economical car. I told the salesman in an email to give me $X for my trade in and an out the door price of $Y on their car. He said it looked reasonable and to come take a look at the car. I did on Saturday. The car was pretty much what I expected, except for a few more scratches than I anticipated. But it seemed to drive fine and everything worked. It'll probably need new tires within a year and be due for its 100k mile service. So then I sit down with him and we talk numbers. He says $Y+300 for the car and $X for my trade in. I said we discussed $Y and $X. Then he offers $Y and $X-200, and says he's giving me another $100. He hands me his printed out offer and it really ends up being $Y+400 after their added fees and $X-200 for my trade in. He says he can't do any better. Should I stand firm on my initial offer? They originally had the car marked at $Y+1900. The $X for my trade in is in the range of what I'd expect for it.

I hate dealing with car salesmen.

Since when did algebra come into play when buying a car?!?!
 
Trying to pull the trigger on buying a more economical car. I told the salesman in an email to give me $X for my trade in and an out the door price of $Y on their car. He said it looked reasonable and to come take a look at the car. I did on Saturday. The car was pretty much what I expected, except for a few more scratches than I anticipated. But it seemed to drive fine and everything worked. It'll probably need new tires within a year and be due for its 100k mile service. So then I sit down with him and we talk numbers. He says $Y+300 for the car and $X for my trade in. I said we discussed $Y and $X. Then he offers $Y and $X-200, and says he's giving me another $100. He hands me his printed out offer and it really ends up being $Y+400 after their added fees and $X-200 for my trade in. He says he can't do any better. Should I stand firm on my initial offer? They originally had the car marked at $Y+1900. The $X for my trade in is in the range of what I'd expect for it.

I hate dealing with car salesmen.

Depends on how he worded the 'sounds reasonable' on the original communication. If he said "we might be able to do that depending on the condition of your vehicle, etc.", then I'd maybe play ball. If he just said it looked reasonable and now they changed their story, I'd give them a one-shot response of "I felt like we pretty well agreed on numbers when we talked earlier, now it feels like you're jacking me around...either the original deal stands as an 'out the door' number, or I feel like you just bullshitted me to get me in the door and jack me around...in which case, I'm done."

The other part is...are you more desperate for this car, or are they more desperate to sell it? If it's the former, you're probably going to have to move. If it's the latter, they will.
 
Trying to pull the trigger on buying a more economical car. I told the salesman in an email to give me $X for my trade in and an out the door price of $Y on their car. He said it looked reasonable and to come take a look at the car. I did on Saturday. The car was pretty much what I expected, except for a few more scratches than I anticipated. But it seemed to drive fine and everything worked. It'll probably need new tires within a year and be due for its 100k mile service. So then I sit down with him and we talk numbers. He says $Y+300 for the car and $X for my trade in. I said we discussed $Y and $X. Then he offers $Y and $X-200, and says he's giving me another $100. He hands me his printed out offer and it really ends up being $Y+400 after their added fees and $X-200 for my trade in. He says he can't do any better. Should I stand firm on my initial offer? They originally had the car marked at $Y+1900. The $X for my trade in is in the range of what I'd expect for it.

I hate dealing with car salesmen.


I would probably try to deal with the trade-in as a separate transaction unless you really think you're getting a good price on it. Is a similar car available somewhere else? You could always send the offer to another dealer and ask if they can beat it. You could tell current salesman that you only came in to look at the car based on prices of Y and X and want to know why he is giving you different numbers in person.
 
Boxster is somebody all of us men admire. He comes off as an intelligent, thoughtful, funny guy who keeps himself in great shape, makes great rhubarb-based baking goods, has a cool car and tells interesting anecdotes. As we get older I think you’ll see that all of us guys will try to emulate what Boxster represents. Pants first step in the process seems to be complaining about the rain.

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He's just trying to hide the original numbers, doesn't want us to know he's haggling a few hundred bucks on a 75K car.

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Well, if the logarithm in the third quadrant is deemed to no longer be a false positive, I'd say the latter of the hypotheses would determine to hold up over further testing.
 
It was for the better of all that way. If I got out of hand, there's trained professionals there with rifles and tranquilizer darts.

This is why I like to know the weight of my co-workers. I tell them that I need to know since I do not want to overdose them when I shoot them with a tranquilizer dart when they get crazy.
 
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