Those glasses are so cardinal colored I'm surprised you can see anything at all.
***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***
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Those glasses are so cardinal colored I'm surprised you can see anything at all.
Wow. Just wow. 3 million is an extremely small footprint. USC and UCLA will have little to no want to come to Ames for a game. The smaller PAC schools at least have history to strengthen the relationships.
This conversation started assuming the Big Ten pushes all the way to 20 and the Pac were to follow in a virtual merger of the 12 and 10 team leagues. There's no way in H ISU gets left out of that type of thing so Baylor, TCU and WVU can be part of the league. ISU fits that league in countless ways better than those three. It's a far flung scenario to begin with, but within that scenario the idea that Stanford would rather group themselves with WVU and TCU is the outrageous position.
ISU is an AAU member and a respected national research university. These are very important things for ISU and are also very important for students and alumni when it comes to our degrees.
These things are probably 99 and 100 on the list of things conferences are looking at during conference expansion.
Depending on how things play out it is very possible that ISU could still end up in a power conference if the Big XII did fall apart. But to think that is a sure thing, or even a likely thing, is just sticking your head in the ground.
These things are probably 99 and 100 on the list of things conferences are looking at during conference expansion.
Depending on how things play out it is very possible that ISU could still end up in a power conference if the Big XII did fall apart. But to think that is a sure thing, or even a likely thing, is just sticking your head in the ground.
There are 3 million TVs on one side of the DFW metroplex. Not to mention TCU is "warm weather" like most of the Pac-12 schools, plays baseball, and provides another inroad to the fertile Texas recruiting ground.
Traveling to DFW from the west is convenient by air, and traveling would be a significant issue in a Big 12/Pac-12 merger. TCU would also provide some reduced-travel games for UT and OU.
If academics played more than a very minor role in realignment, the AAU membership might mean something.
TCU's biggest detractor for Pac-12 membership would be it's religious affiliation.
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Then how come TCU cannot get 20,000 people to go to their games? Because no one is Dallas cares about TCU! I was hoping you would stop posting after your "we will never win a road game" rant that ended with a thud this Wednesday.
If 20-team conferences are going to compete as two 10-team divisions with round robin scheduling, I would be all for it as long as ISU is in one of the 3 top 20-team conferences.
If the B12 would somehow decide to voluntarily dissolve and render the B12 GOR useless, the most likely scenario would be for the 7 Midwest/Texas public schools (including ISU) to be added to the P12 with one other school included (BYU, TCU or BU). WVU could probably end up in the SEC in that scenario.
...and the vast majority of those TV sets are Texas, Aggy and OU fans. TCU's incremental value due to being in DFW is not really that significant and evidenced by their FB and BB attendence.
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What's the hurry, guys? Let the B1G rush to capitalize on an untested, unsustainable business model. The BTN hasn't even been around a decade yet, and the cable industry could be in major flux during the coming years (as has been discussed in other threads). Why hitch our wagon to a revenue model that could very well fall flat on it's face when we can sit tight with our 13-year GOR and take our time seeing how things play out?
My ideal situation is the Big XII remains at 10 for a decade, building up some conference identity.
Then in 2026 we steal Mizzou and Arkansas the an unwieldy 20 team SEC and live happily ever after in a regional conference that makes sense.
Then in 2026 we steal Mizzou and Arkansas the an unwieldy 20 team SEC and live happily ever after in a regional conference that makes sense.
Why so bitter?
According to Big12sports.com (the official website of the Big 12), TCU FB attendance averaged 46,046 this past season, which was better than 5 Pac-12 teams.
http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdfs/football/weekly-release.pdf page 6
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/content/sports/football/pdf/fb-1-16-13.pdf page 7
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No one wanted to be in the Big East.
ISU was never going to be nor will it ever be demoted and neither will any other public AQ football program.
Anyone who thought we'd get demoted was wrong and if they think we still might get demoted they are still wrong.
Glad so many "donated" by purchasing tickets they never used. Watch a TCU game. There is no one actually there.
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Members of the SWC that didn't make the cut for the Big XII and all members of the Big East.
Which are who? Academic/research profiles, AD budgets, fanbase size? Give me a list of programs that have been explicitly demoted. The demotion alarmists are silly and wrong. Don't be one.
He said publicly funded AQ school, so wouldn't that technically be just UConn, Cincy, and USF at this point?
USF and UConn have practically no major conference football history. Cincy is certainly toward the bottom in that area too.
I agree and somewhat disagree with him. I think conferences would try to squeeze out the ISU, KSU, Miss St, WSU types if they thought it could make them a buck, but I also think that's when the major trials and government squeeze starts.
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