Plasma TV Burn In

[balken]

1512 is wondering what the heck is going on.

1066 called and said if anyone steals "The Conqueror" from William it will kick that year's ***.

 

[Dino]

 

[dmclone]

Always a good solution if you feel like spending more money to buy an inferior product.

This

 

[jdoggivjc]

1066 called and said if anyone steals "The Conqueror" from William it will kick that year's ***.

33 A.D. called and muttered "Jesus Christ died this year for you knuckleheads?"

 

[cycloneG]

44 BC called and said "Et tu, Brute?".

 

[nj829]

1440 BC just called, some guy named Moses just arrived with a couple tablets and a comment "that's so 2000 BC"

 

[Tailg8er]

Always a good solution if you feel like spending more money to buy an inferior product.

Agreed!

I've had my Panasonic plasma for 2 years now & love it. Never had any issues with burn in, even after a couple instances of passing out drunk with a dvd menu up all night. :laugh:

 

[Cydkar]

Always a good solution if you feel like spending more money to buy an inferior product.

This. Or, if you like moving objects that look blurry I might splurge for an LCD as well.

 

[drmwevr08]

I have a plasma and have worried about this a couple of times. It always seems to go away. I have not heard about the screen wiping thingie so I will have to see if I have one.

To those claiming LCD is better and it was silly to buy a plasma :tongue:

I much prefer the picture on my plasma to similar LCDs and particularly like the fact that my kids can poke it and bounce things off of it and not do any damage. Not yet anyway, they are throwing larger and larger things!

 

[iahawkhunter]

And 1876 called and asked why 1905 is sending telegraphs when the telephone was invented in 1876.

Hiptster-1905 was being retro.

 

[cytech]

Agreed!

I've had my Panasonic plasma for 2 years now & love it. Never had any issues with burn in, even after a couple instances of passing out drunk with a dvd menu up all night. :laugh:

I have done this too, but my Panasonic is about 3 years old now and no problems. I will say my parents had a issue with their 54" plasma but it was within the warranty period and Panasonic fixed it. They had a company bring out a loaner TV took their TV in fixed it and then made the switch again about 2 weeks later.

 

[aeroclone]

buy an LCD tv end of story

Plasma has blacker blacks then LCD, and more vivid colors. Compare the contrast ratios of even a high end LED LCD to a basic plasma and it still isn't even close. Plasma also handles motion much better with a 600Hz refresh rate. I believe 240 is tops for LCD, with a lot still out there at 60 or 120. And finally, plasma tends to give you all of this benefit at a lower price point. And that final item is why you are seeing manufacturers and stores with more and more LCDs and fewer plasmas on the shelf. It has nothing to do with superior technology, it has everything to do with superior profit margins. But hey, if you wan't to listen to what the blue shirts at Best Buy want to tell you, I guess there really is a sucker born every minute.

 

[GeronimusClone]

I've had some problems with this, but find they go away.

 

[Senolcyc]

Same things happens to my TV after a Skinemax marathon. The upside is the burn image is two large bare breasts.

 

[capitalcityguy]

Same things happens to my TV after a Skinemax marathon. The upside is the burn image is two large bare breasts.

So unlike the OP, you're not trying to get rid of yours.

 

[Dino]

Plasma has blacker blacks then LCD, and more vivid colors. Compare the contrast ratios of even a high end LED LCD to a basic plasma and it still isn't even close. Plasma also handles motion much better with a 600Hz refresh rate. I believe 240 is tops for LCD, with a lot still out there at 60 or 120. And finally, plasma tends to give you all of this benefit at a lower price point. And that final item is why you are seeing manufacturers and stores with more and more LCDs and fewer plasmas on the shelf. It has nothing to do with superior technology, it has everything to do with superior profit margins. But hey, if you wan't to listen to what the blue shirts at Best Buy want to tell you, I guess there really is a sucker born every minute.

This is mostly correct, especially about black levels/contrast. Regarding refresh rate, Panasonic, for instance will claim some of their plasma's are 600Hz but the way they came to this number is that they divide their screen into 10 fields which are each 60Hz. 60Hz x 10 fields = 600Hz. They know the consumer will most likely just think the bigger number is better. So your plasma is really 60Hz, meaning the image is being redrawn 60 times in one second, which is not a big deal anyway since the content is only coming in at 24 or 30 times a second. But plasma's don't need a fast refresh rate since the plasma cells are already refiring around 1000 times a second, much faster that the image is being redrawn anyway.

The issue LCDs run into is that the LCD cells can't keep up with the times the image is being drawn. The LCD cells actually open and close to varying degrees to let light pass through and that is much slower than the chemical reaction of plasmas. The picture is actually being drawn at 60, 120 or 240 (faster than the source frame rate) but the cells are what is falling behind. The jump from 60 to 120 is a pretty noticeable improvement but 240 is generally not as much. They also came up with something called "interpolation" where the processor tries to guess what a frame might look like between two frames of content since they would be displaying the same image 4 or 8 times anyway (at 120 or 240Hz) and this can help on the fast moving stuff for when it catches the cells at the right time for them to refire. The problem is it can make weird artifacts on still shots with little motion. Most LCDs have the ability to turn off the interpolation (sometimes it has what ever weird name the manufacturer gives) and I would recommend having it on for say sports but off for movies.

All that said LCD's have improved quite a bit in recent years on their motion blur problems. I would probably go with a good plasma in my dark, movie watching basement room or mancave but would have no problem with an LCD in a brightly lit, window-filled living room area. They are much brighter and handle the brightness of the room better.

This was not specifically aimed at anyone just thought some might be interested.

 

[dmclone]

This is mostly correct, especially about black levels/contrast. Regarding refresh rate, Panasonic, for instance will claim some of their plasma's are 600Hz but the way they came to this number is that they divide their screen into 10 fields which are each 60Hz. 60Hz x 10 fields = 600Hz. They know the consumer will most likely just think the bigger number is better. So your plasma is really 60Hz, meaning the image is being redrawn 60 times in one second, which is not a big deal anyway since the content is only coming in at 24 or 30 times a second. But plasma's don't need a fast refresh rate since the plasma cells are already refiring around 1000 times a second, much faster that the image is being redrawn anyway.

The issue LCDs run into is that the LCD cells can't keep up with the times the image is being drawn. The LCD cells actually open and close to varying degrees to let light pass through and that is much slower than the chemical reaction of plasmas. The picture is actually being drawn at 60, 120 or 240 (faster than the source frame rate) but the cells are what is falling behind. The jump from 60 to 120 is a pretty noticeable improvement but 240 is generally not as much. They also came up with something called "interpolation" where the processor tries to guess what a frame might look like between two frames of content since they would be displaying the same image 4 or 8 times anyway (at 120 or 240Hz) and this can help on the fast moving stuff for when it catches the cells at the right time for them to refire. The problem is it can make weird artifacts on still shots with little motion. Most LCDs have the ability to turn off the interpolation (sometimes it has what ever weird name the manufacturer gives) and I would recommend having it on for say sports but off for movies.

All that said LCD's have improved quite a bit in recent years on their motion blur problems. I would probably go with a good plasma in my dark, movie watching basement room or mancave but would have no problem with an LCD in a brightly lit, window-filled living room area. They are much brighter and handle the brightness of the room better.

This was not specifically aimed at anyone just thought some might be interested.

This is about the best explanation I've seen of the current TV market.

 

[Clonedogg]

This is mostly correct, especially about black levels/contrast. Regarding refresh rate, Panasonic, for instance will claim some of their plasma's are 600Hz but the way they came to this number is that they divide their screen into 10 fields which are each 60Hz. 60Hz x 10 fields = 600Hz. They know the consumer will most likely just think the bigger number is better. So your plasma is really 60Hz, meaning the image is being redrawn 60 times in one second, which is not a big deal anyway since the content is only coming in at 24 or 30 times a second. But plasma's don't need a fast refresh rate since the plasma cells are already refiring around 1000 times a second, much faster that the image is being redrawn anyway.

The issue LCDs run into is that the LCD cells can't keep up with the times the image is being drawn. The LCD cells actually open and close to varying degrees to let light pass through and that is much slower than the chemical reaction of plasmas. The picture is actually being drawn at 60, 120 or 240 (faster than the source frame rate) but the cells are what is falling behind. The jump from 60 to 120 is a pretty noticeable improvement but 240 is generally not as much. They also came up with something called "interpolation" where the processor tries to guess what a frame might look like between two frames of content since they would be displaying the same image 4 or 8 times anyway (at 120 or 240Hz) and this can help on the fast moving stuff for when it catches the cells at the right time for them to refire. The problem is it can make weird artifacts on still shots with little motion. Most LCDs have the ability to turn off the interpolation (sometimes it has what ever weird name the manufacturer gives) and I would recommend having it on for say sports but off for movies.

All that said LCD's have improved quite a bit in recent years on their motion blur problems. I would probably go with a good plasma in my dark, movie watching basement room or mancave but would have no problem with an LCD in a brightly lit, window-filled living room area. They are much brighter and handle the brightness of the room better.

This was not specifically aimed at anyone just thought some might be interested.

I'm a manager in an Electronics Dept for a major retailer and I agree with this statement. I wish we carried Panasonic plasma's in 1080 but we only have Samsung in 720 but the picture in the plasma's r much better in my opinion. The whites r'nt quite as bright as lcd's but the picture is so much more life-like. Samsung LED LCD's 120Hz are the best LCD technology in my opinion.

 

[dbronco7sc]

Well stated by Dino.

One addition... Plasma puts off more heat, and is better suited for darker rooms.
So Plasma makes a lot of sense in cool dark basements.

Bright and already warm rooms... you're better off with an LCD. (Upstairs).

 

[tube1]

Well stated by Dino.

One addition... Plasma puts off more heat, and is better suited for darker rooms.
So Plasma makes a lot of sense in cool dark basements.

Bright and already warm rooms... you're better off with an LCD. (Upstairs).

So plasma is great for all of us since we all post from our mom's basements.