Oh well. I'm done trying to add anything to a conversation with Cubs fans. Enjoy battling year in and year out for spots 2-4 in the NL central. GO CARDS!
MLB: Wrigley Field in "Brutal Shape?"
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I guess I disagree with the bolded part. I love going to Wrigley, and I'm not even a Cubs fan. I usually make at least 2 weekend trips a year, so that's not a ton of games, but enough to know the place pretty well.
I've also been to a lot of nice newer parks like Miller, AT&T (Pac Bell at the time), Camden Yards. They have certain advantages, but I still would rather spend time at good ole' Wrigley any day.
You do realize that the neighborhood "history" as you know it is about 15 years old.
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Renovate the bleachers, tear down and rebuild the grandstand, a la Sec Taylor Stadium (Principal Park). The Cubs could use a modern scoreboard/video board -- hand posting scores is no longer the "compelling luxury" it used to be.
Agreed. If there was a new park built, the old one should still be used for several games throughout the season. I'd hate to believe that they would ever tear it down. I think it would be best to rebuild, regardless of cost, because the "Wrigleyville" neigborhood is so established. Where else would they go??? The burbs?
If they build a new ball park, they have to keep all the traditions, like the Cubs making a big game out of when they start sucking....will it be at the season opener, June, July, or will they hold out all the way until August before they tank?
That's the best part.
That's the best part.
you do realize I wasn't referring to the bars and businesses as "history"
How many other ballparks can fans of the team who aren't from that city name the streets surrounding the ballpark?
I hate to agree with this guy but he is right. What history? Terrible baseball, mostly empty day games for 70 years. Drunks stumbling around.
There isnt any history there other than terrible baseball. Again, I am a Cubs fan. It's time to tear it down. I used to attend 25 games a year or so, and part of the reason I go to 2 or 3 max now is because Wrigley is such a dump. Pain in the *** to get there, pain in the *** to get to your seat, pain in the *** to get to the can. That's fine for a bus trip from Iowa once a year, but if you go anymore than that the place is really a turn off. Tired of Wrigley and the terrible baseball being played there day in and day out.
I am a Cubs Fan in part because of Wrigley. I prefer older ballparks. They are smaller so you are closer to the action, and the scoreboard is old school and adds to the charm of the place. Even Ozzie Guillen on Chicago Tribune Live said there is no better place to play or manage a game than Wrigley. He just thinks the locker rooms etc. are crap. He is right too. The facility has not been upgraded or maintained ideally, like any. What is annoying is that everyone is now piling on the new owners who have owned it for two years. They have a plan to upgrade it, but need the right economic and political climate to get help from the city and state.
How did Wrigley all of a sudden become a problem? The problem is the record of the team. If the Cubs were in first we would not be hearing this stuff. Also, Sox and Cards fans are going to pipe in and of course bash Wrigley. That's what rivals do.
I for one love riding my bike over to Wrigley and seeing a game. It's a great place full of tradition. No way will the Cubs ever tear it down nor should they.
How did Wrigley all of a sudden become a problem? The problem is the record of the team. If the Cubs were in first we would not be hearing this stuff. Also, Sox and Cards fans are going to pipe in and of course bash Wrigley. That's what rivals do.
I for one love riding my bike over to Wrigley and seeing a game. It's a great place full of tradition. No way will the Cubs ever tear it down nor should they.
Most of those building around there need to be torn down anyway. They are also dumps. God forbid if Sluggers or that toilet the Cubby Bear were not around anymore.
personally if i were the cubs id tear that hell hole down and try to forget the last 100+ years of failure. a fresh start would be good for that team. get rid of the goat, bartman (sp?), and everything other stupid excuse cubs fans have for being a terrible team. get rid of the ivy and everything that makes the stadium old. the yankees had good history so it made sense to bring some of the old charm over into the new stadium. the cubs...not so much. get rid of it all and start over
It's nice to bash the Cubs, and seems fashionable. Saying there is no tradition and that it has been a complete failure is ridiculous. Have the Cubs been in last place for 100 years? Tell the no tradition thing to Ernie Banks, or Harry Caray's widow. People are passionate about the Cubs like any team's fans. Bash the Cubs and their fans but loyalty is a good thing, and Wrigley outsells just about everyone in the League.
hawkeyeh8r as a Twins fan who's team played in the dome, you seriously should not throw stones. The Dome was the worst baseball facility maybe ever conceived, and yes I did see games there.
hawkeyeh8r as a Twins fan who's team played in the dome, you seriously should not throw stones. The Dome was the worst baseball facility maybe ever conceived, and yes I did see games there.
Says the guy who's favorite team played in a dome for almost 30 years. Seriously Twins fans, when it comes to stadiums, your input is not valid.
You are correct. It's a very historic neighborhood. My earliest Cub memories are watching the Sunday afternoon TV games in the 1960s with Jack Brickhouse doing the play-by-play. Hey Hey! The buildings across the streets in the outfield are mostly the same. There is one with a spire on it that used to say WGN9 or some such and later it said Budweiser.
I'm one of the oldest farts here and I've got your back: it IS an historic neighborhood.
That "baseball person" that is linked to this article was Peter Gammons. He hates Wrigley Field. He blasted it last month in an interview.
They won't replace it. They' do what they did with Fenway.
They won't replace it. They' do what they did with Fenway.
What the hell does Peter Gammons know about stadium infrastructure? The guy is a baseball expert, not a structural engineer.
Minus the part where it hasn't been in the top 5 in attendance in the past decade.
And are Cubs fans really going to say Wrigley has more history than Old Yankee Stadium? It isn't even close. Wrigley is a hell hole and if the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for it, they should build a new stadium instead of gutting Wrigley. Let 'em play on the south side for a couple years if they have to in order for a stadium to be built on the current site.
I dont think anyone is saying wrigley is more iconic, but I think it means more to the cubs. without wrigley, attendance would be at the bottom of the leauge. the Yankees could build a new stadium because they would still sell out no matter what.
