What % of your takehome pay are you spending on living expenses?

Fair enough, got me there. Also, you're spot on about assets. The house I bought was a condo built ~25 years ago. Sold new around $80-90k and I just bought it over $200k. It's almost the same damn house it was back then, but cost almost 3x as much now... is the median wage 3x higher now since 2000? I'd bet most normal people would consider my house to be a "starter home" around here.

there's a joke about your math here, but I'm going to be an adult and not make it.
 
Fair enough, got me there. Also, you're spot on about assets. The house I bought was a condo built ~25 years ago. Sold new around $80-90k and I just bought it over $200k. It's almost the same damn house it was back then, but cost almost 3x as much now... is the median wage 3x higher now since 2000? I'd bet most normal people would consider my house to be a "starter home" around here.

ok, I'll bite. First of all 85*2 =170 ~ 200, so it's 2x (or 2.4x if we''re mathing)

second, a condo going from $85k to $200k in 25 years is only 1.7% per year. There is zero to complain about in your situation lol. Other homes? sure, but 1.7% is nothing.

and no - Median wages in Iowa haven't increased 2.4X since 2000. But they've gone up 1.9X ... so not THAT badly mismatched.
 
one of the shittiest things this country does is rob every dollar and moment of time they can from young parents. it does get better, but from the moment they charge you thousands leaving the hospital to the time the kids are teenagers it's nothing but daycare / groceries / diapers / first homes and oblivious people wondering why you "don't spend more time with your kids". I'm at work to try to afford them!

as someone who is starting to come out the other side, it does get better eventually, but there's a TON of undeserved stress on young parents and I feel for you. it's honestly amazing that most marriages survive and the kids generally turn into quality humans.
Id argue there is a war against the single and childless.
 
Fair enough, got me there. Also, you're spot on about assets. The house I bought was a condo built ~25 years ago. Sold new around $80-90k and I just bought it over $200k. It's almost the same damn house it was back then, but cost almost 3x as much now... is the median wage 3x higher now since 2000? I'd bet most normal people would consider my house to be a "starter home" around here.
I worked on houses in Waukee that were 650k. After not even 10 years many of those houses are pushing a million.
 
Fair enough, got me there. Also, you're spot on about assets. The house I bought was a condo built ~25 years ago. Sold new around $80-90k and I just bought it over $200k. It's almost the same damn house it was back then, but cost almost 3x as much now... is the median wage 3x higher now since 2000? I'd bet most normal people would consider my house to be a "starter home" around here.
I mean a place built in 2000 and selling for 90K at the time and selling for 200ish in 2025/2026 is kinda a bargain my man
 
I hate talking about financial success because I don't want to discourage the young, who are mostly doing better than they realize. I have a 26-year-old who, unlike many his age (myself included at that time), wants to learn from the fiscally responsible people around him. My advice to him is simple: max out 401k, stay 100% in S&P 500 for the next couple decades, and think very carefully about long-term commitments (marriage, kids, major loans).


I am four years away from early retirement myself. I also continue to save aggressively, but the real driver of my portfolio is the compounding growth over the last 30 years. Now, for better or worse, our investment swings are often greater than our total yearly paychecks combined. We are debt-free at this time and on track to pay off our new home before we retire. We don’t have any kids so we’ve always spent money on travel and luxury cars, which I pay cash for. We’ve been able to live off the rest of our income worry-free by prioritizing our career growth and retirement savings above all else.
 
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I hate talking about financial success because I don't want to discourage the young, who are mostly doing better than they realize. I have a 26-year-old who, unlike many his age (myself included at that time), wants to learn from the fiscally responsible people around him. My advice to him is simple: max out 401k, stay 100% in S&P 500 for the next couple decades, and think very carefully about long-term commitments (marriage, kids, major loans).


I am four years away from early retirement myself. I also continue to save aggressively, but the real driver of my portfolio is the compounding growth over the last 30 years. Now, for better or worse, our investment swings are often greater than our total yearly paychecks combined. We are debt-free at this time and on track to pay off our new home before we retire. We don’t have any kids so we’ve always spent money on travel and luxury cars, which I pay cash for. We’ve been able to live off the rest of our income worry-free by prioritizing our career growth and retirement savings above all else.
I’d say max the 401k match for sure (probably what you meant but good to clarify) and also utilize an HSA as well if it’s offered especially at their age

The advice is solid but so much of financial planning requires looking at a persons specific situation and goals but in general your advice isn’t bad, but I wouldn’t just do 100% S&P 500. But that’s just me
 
no, but seriously. there's no war on single people, comeon. single people can literally job chase ANYWHERE. if you're single and struggling, you're the problem.

edit: I'm redefining single as "also no dependent parents or crazy **** tying you somewhere"
 
I mean a place built in 2000 and selling for 90K at the time and selling for 200ish in 2025/2026 is kinda a bargain my man
Looking more deeply, it's more like $75k new and $220K when I bought it. For, like, 1400 sqft. But again, the whole point of this is the infinite expansion of assets. This can't work forever. The share of people being left behind by this issue grows daily. How long are we gonna keep this up?
 
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I hate talking about financial success because I don't want to discourage the young, who are mostly doing better than they realize. I have a 26-year-old who, unlike many his age (myself included at that time), wants to learn from the fiscally responsible people around him. My advice to him is simple: max out 401k, stay 100% in S&P 500 for the next couple decades, and think very carefully about long-term commitments (marriage, kids, major loans).

I am four years away from early retirement myself. I also continue to save aggressively, but the real driver of my portfolio is the compounding growth over the last 30 years. Now, for better or worse, our investment swings are often greater than our total yearly paychecks combined. We are debt-free at this time and on track to pay off our new home before we retire. We don’t have any kids so we’ve always spent money on travel and luxury cars, which I pay cash for. We’ve been able to live off the rest of our income worry-free by prioritizing our career growth and retirement savings above all else.

poor kid gets disowned by paragraph 2 smfh ;)
 
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no, but seriously. there's no war on single people, comeon. single people can literally job chase ANYWHERE. if you're single and struggling, you're the problem.

edit: I'm redefining single as "also no dependent parents or crazy **** tying you somewhere"
You can job chase ANYWHERE so long as you're willing to sacrifice all of your family and friends to do so, sure. You act like moving across the country isn't a complete and total restart of life.
 
You can job chase ANYWHERE so long as you're willing to sacrifice all of your family and friends to do so, sure. You act like moving across the country isn't a complete and total restart of life.
1) you don't have a family, that's the single part. if you're in your 20's I can PROMISE you any good parent wants you to be a successful human vs wanting you next door. Move back when you have grandkids lol.
2) you can make friends anywhere - didn't most of your friends move after college anyway?

maybe I'm a terrible person, but grow some balls and go make some coin.
 
1) you don't have a family, that's the single part. if you're in your 20's I can PROMISE you any good parent wants you to be a successful human vs wanting you next door. Move back when you have grandkids lol.
2) you can make friends anywhere - didn't most of your friends move after college anyway?

maybe I'm a terrible person, but grow some balls and go make some coin.
I mean, I guess so? If life boils down to a set of purely-transactional events with nothing else mattering, then sure.
 
You can job chase ANYWHERE so long as you're willing to sacrifice all of your family and friends to do so, sure. You act like moving across the country isn't a complete and total restart of life.
Plus there's literally no help for people who are single without kids. Everything's on you.
 
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You can job chase ANYWHERE so long as you're willing to sacrifice all of your family and friends to do so, sure. You act like moving across the country isn't a complete and total restart of life.
Yeah but that’s a choice, I’m kinda with him that if you are complaining about finding a job but refuse to look farther then your local or greater area that’s a you problem (again like the poster said that if you don’t have dependents etc)

You move away and get the job that pays that gets you more resume building and if you want to move back later then go for it. We live in a very connected world where it’s not only easier then ever to keep in touch but you also continue to build your network and make yourself more valuable.
 
As an elder millennial, one of the biggest things I did for my future financial health wasn’t all that calculated. In 2009 (end of the housing crisis) I was moving to Denver. After being in 5 different apartments in 6 different years I was absolutely burnt out on renting and landlords in general. We decided to buy a home to escape that, and Denver was incredibly affordable at that time. We bought a 10 year old starter home for 230ish. Flash forward 4 years the Denver market was going crazy and we sold in the mid 300’s. That starter house would get just south of 600 now. The sale of that home set us up for the next one, which in turn set us up for the next one after that. We ended up making our meager amount of money in 09 work for us quite a bit over the years, all because we were sick of renting.

I feel sorry for the younger generations not being able to afford property at a young age. That is one of the easiest ways to build wealth, and it has been taken away from them. No wonder the middle class is disappearing.
 
Plus there's literally no help for people who are single without kids. Everything's on you.
At the same time you don’t have anyone else that’s relying on you so you can live the way you want without forcing others to do so.

As long as it’s by choice no issue with it, no perfect solution that works for everyone. Again living the DINK life but it’s still one less stressor to not have kids
 
At the same time you don’t have anyone else that’s relying on you so you can live the way you want without forcing others to do so.

As long as it’s by choice no issue with it, no perfect solution that works for everyone. Again living the DINK life but it’s still one less stressor to not have kids
I said single. You're duel income. Just do the math on the median income. If you think a single person is advantaged in this economy you're just not trying.
 

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