Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Makes me think the next set of media deals will include language preventing this. You can’t bid on the rights assuming you get all of the games and then find out they moved something to a neutral site and you don’t own the rights anymore.
That’d fast track the end of anything close to equal revenue sharing, if not the end of conferences as we know them
Regardless, you can do this when espn bought those rights and is also profiting from the resale. ACC-SEC matchups in particular since they own both
It’s an interesting one as it’s a non conference game and there are only so many of those a year for football, for basketball this kinda already exists with the various tournaments
Meh, conferences really only exist in name only anymore.
They aren’t what they once were. They’re even more important now.
Just bundled sale of TV rights, which is the single most important thing in college athletics. More critical to the program/school than winning on the field
I would be curious what the side deal between the two schools/conferences/ESPN. The news release on ESPN.com mentions the home & home series was cancelled because both conferences are moving to 9 game conference schedules. And sounds like both schools want to guarantee they will have ticket revenue from at least 7 home games each season.
In this case, will a neutral site game between two premier non-conference blue bloods serve as fundraisers for both schools NIL Arms? Would be curious what the Media Rights going rate on a per game basis if acquired by an Amazon, Apple or even TBS. The Big10 deals with NBC & CBS were $350M annually for I believe between 12-14 games annually. So are we talking $25M+ plus in media rights fees that Georgia & Florda could split?
In a Greg Flugar YT video earlier this week, he mentioned the Amazon & Duke deal was under dispute by FOX. Fox is arguing, even though the Duke v. Michigan game is being held at a neutral site, FOX owns the rights for the next Big10 vs. ACC game. Agreements between the ACC & Big10 stipulate neutral site game media rights within shared territory are alternated between conferences. So there also has to be some benefit to the Conference (and other member schools) to encourage neutral site games with Media Rights payments outside current agreements.
Could be these arrangements be consistent with "unequal revenue sharing" trend within conferences?
ACC and SEC are both solely owned by same offtake, so not much conference issues on this one . If not for the antiquated belief that scheduling should be balanced and revenue sharing should be equal, SEC and ACC are same conference.
If anything, both conferences and espn make more from this, it just represents unequal revenue sharing
These articles are paywalled or blocked with a subscription, any chance to get a rough summery? Just trying to connect the dots
Prob for another thread, but I am not so sure about that. CMC won a lot of 1 score games but a lot of those should have been 2 score ISU wins. Got totally smoked a couple times in big games (ASU, ND), lost games they should have cruised in 2022 with a boatload of NFL guys. Poor use of clock and timeouts, game mismanagement. I don't see him as a great game day coach, tbh. Great program builder and sustainer, yes - high floor always. But not so much on vaulting a team thru the ceiling.
Honestly, when they fired because Franklin "couldn't win the big one" and then hired CMC, I thought "you just hired the same guy".
Nothing new in that one, other than more schools deciding against LOC
The Big 12 can’t go into negotiations with only Fox and ESPN. On one hand, the Big 12 is the only inventory for sale. But on the other, the buy side knows that the conference can’t walk. It has to get a deal
A partnership with PE/PC that has media offtake in portfolio can act as a floor. Insurance. Even just being backed by billions with path to that billions monetizing rights via its assets, means when sourcing a deal it’s a more efficient market. In the downside case in which all media buyers say no or don’t offer enough, Redbird takes ownership at some suboptimal but sustainable price. They likely sublicense imo, but maybe they buy PACN assets or some other small network in conjunction with paramount
Big 12: “how about $50 million”
P2 networks: “how about $35 million
Big 12: “how about $40million
P2 networks: “how about $30 million
Big 12: looks around…”$35 still available?”
That’s basically what occurred in 2022/23 with PAC, and Big 12 wisely realizing there was one chair and any deal better than no deal
Little risk to Big 12 given the alternative of not securing a deal at parity or above ACC means end of Big 12, and major college athletics for some
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I marked disagree because of your "Go West" section. The B1G and SEC already went west and got everyone they wanted. Right now the finances do not justify adding anyone else other than the 5 you mentioned at the top and maybe Duke.
Maybe the finances change so that adding more teams will make financial sense, but I think we're going the other way. The top SEC and B1G schools are already pushing for unequal rev sharing in the form of owning their playoff revenue. The also-rans will fight to keep their contracts away from any additional mouths.
Is FOS (Redbird capital lol) paywall? Thought it was just signing up.
The article by old foe Wilner (Mercury News) is paywall
It was just signing up but I’m not a fan of just randomly signing up for things and getting put on even more marketing lists then I’m already on lol
This nailed it. Big Ten could've taken whoever they wanted when they got the four west coast teams. There's just not enough juice to squeeze in the big 12 to have to really worry about being raided by the Big 10 or the SEC.
Starting in 2030, the ACC is going to get poached hard as that's when their buyout is the lowest. I think Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UVA, Virginia Tech, UNC all end up in the P2. Basically we'll have two super conferences. Maybe not super in total number of teams, but super in terms of value. The Big 12 and ACC could try to come together but at that point does that create enough value?
The Big10 is about adding teams in the largest media markets in populous states. So adding schools like Stanford & ASUorUU fill the bill. And the Big10 can make financial sense of adding Stanford if they also get Notre Dame. Plus Stanford's academic value is desirable for Presidents.
IMO 6 West Coast schools helps minimize travel and has been part of the Big10's long-term vision since adding USC/UCLA. In FB play the other 5 West schools each season and only 2 road trips east.
With 20+ team conferences & 16/24 team CFP & elimination of CCG- scheduling will be more about creating rivals than playing other conference schools with high frequency.
Why should the Big 10 even be allowed to think about fielding an athletic department. Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa, Michigan and now Ohio State have all done horrible things to student athletes.
www.espn.com
Ex-Ohio State football players to join sexual abuse lawsuit against school
Thirty former Ohio State football players, including some former NFL players, have agreed to join a federal lawsuit against the university over the sexual abuse of student athletes decades ago by a team doctor.
