Williams & Blum: More Cyclone Therapy

[cycloneworld]

I'm beginning to wonder how aligned Cook and Pollard are going forward. Cook seems to "get it" by going out and getting sponsors, but is Pollard feeling a bit undermined? Is the above rev share strategy change due to Cook providing more support to the AD or is he forcing Pollard to change his strategy.

The game passes everyone by eventually. Pollard has a bit of a Fennelly vibe to him right now - legend and deserves to go out of his own terms but is anyone super excited about the future under him right now?

 

[jsb]

The revisionist history wears a little thin, IMO. For months, and years really, everyone fawned over Wendy Wintersteen as a president who really "got" athletics and was highly supportive. Now that she's gone the people who know are clearly suggesting that wasn't as true as they made it out to be at the time. In just one month on the job, David Cook is making inroads that apparently nobody else before him could?

I suppose at some point it's on me as a listener to be more discerning and stop taking things at face value.

I mean we did have CW and Blum (and Jeremy) outright blaming Pollard for Campbell leaving for a few days before walking some of it back (I'm assuming at least in part due to not wanting to piss Jamie off).

So I think we need to take everyone's opinions and takes on this stuff with a grain of salt. We all have biases and I don't think we should 100% believe Pollard or Wendy or David Cook or Blum or CW.

 

[Clonealways]

Chris Williams and Brent Blum dissect Audi Crooks’ decision to leave Iowa State and everything that comes with it. The transfer portal official opens this week, while the industry within college sports continues to be on fire. Arizona couldn’t bring the Big 12 a championship in men’s basketball. All this and more, presented by Mechdyne.

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Chris Williams and Brent Blum dissect Audi Crooks’ decision to leave Iowa State and everything that comes with it. The transfer portal official opens this week, while the industry within college sports continues to be on fire. Arizona couldn’t bring the Big 12 a championship in men’s basketball...

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Well, that was as big of a downer I have seen from you two. And Trump or Jeffries or Schumer or Thune or Johnson are not going to solve it. Just not going to happen. The schools made the mess. They are the only one that can solve it but the odds of that happening are so close to zero, it it hardly worth mentioning.

The Executive Order is used to execute gaps in the law. I suppose you could say this Executive Order fills in such gap. It doesn't since courts rule on existing law and Congress makes laws. And that is the rub. The court ruled, then approved an agreement, which makes it part of the law or laws it impacts. An executive order that does the opposite of the ruling, such as doing away with unlimited transfer, lose in Court quickly.

And with midterms 6 months away, Congress is going to work on things that will get them re-elected. Compromise is the only way it can work. And there is not much of that going around these days.

There. You can feel better. That is an even gloomier outlook. You can feel better.

 

[cydnote]

I know we want big corporations to jump on board with NIL opportunities, but what about the former athletes? I realize NIL and rev sure is only a few years old and our most successful players (Haliburton, Purdy) didn’t get NIL, but it sure would help if the athletes that actually benefited from a scholarship and everything that comes with it gave back to the school and AD that helped them get to where they are today. I’m sure some of them are contributing, but don’t ask middle class me to donate to the cause when I just paid off my own student loans and they got a free education and making multi-millions each year to play a game.

Been 50 years since my stint at ISU. Memory fades but I never remember any inference that "if you are successful you should give part of your earnings back to the school". In the Ag college I was required to take some Econ courses--which taught me not to throw money down a rat hole. Should those in the Ag Industry be frowned upon because they valued making land or machinery purchases instead of giving those dollars back to the school? I worked in food service and my pay went towards reducing my room and board. Athletes played sports and many were compensated with low or no cost education, but to expect them to give future earnings back to the school is wishful. To this point, I have enjoyed ISU sports as much as the next guy, and I vowed that if I died with money to give away I'd have no qualms giving it back to my school--as long as it didn't go to the athletic dept. Many thanks to the Sukup's of the world but that shouldn't be expected of anyone. JMO
Edited to ask: I wonder if the Sukup's have contributed $1 to NIL?

 

[SolarGarlic]

Honestly I walked away from that pod thinking my shelf life for college sports is coming up. I barely pay attention to anything outside of ISU/Big 12, but it’s hard for me to care about anything outside of ISU anymore. Definitely a bleak future.

I found myself feeling this as well. That said, every year July rolls around, I get excited for football. I follow the basketball transfer portal closely. It's hard to give up, but man, it's just not the same and never will be.

 

[Amac12]

Been 50 years since my stint at ISU. Memory fades but I never remember any inference that "if you are successful you should give part of your earnings back to the school". In the Ag college I was required to take some Econ courses--which taught me not to throw money down a rat hole. Should those in the Ag Industry be frowned upon because they valued making land or machinery purchases instead of giving those dollars back to the school? I worked in food service and my pay went towards reducing my room and board. Athletes played sports and many were compensated with low or no cost education, but to expect them to give future earnings back to the school is wishful. To this point, I have enjoyed ISU sports as much as the next guy, and I vowed that if I died with money to give away I'd have no qualms giving it back to my school--as long as it didn't go to the athletic dept. Many thanks to the Sukup's of the world but that shouldn't be expected of anyone. JMO
Edited to ask: I wonder if the Sukup's have contributed $1 to NIL?

Many of the good things in my life are a result of my time at ISU..lifelong friends, a great education, great first job, meeting my wife, etc. I am lucky to be able to give back to a school I love and a part of that goes to athletics through Cyclone Club, We will, and tickets for all sports. We live in Ames so our lives somewhat revolve around ISU activities. Everyone's situation is different and I understand hesitation in donating in today's climate.

 

[Jkclone15]

I know we want big corporations to jump on board with NIL opportunities, but what about the former athletes? I realize NIL and rev sure is only a few years old and our most successful players (Haliburton, Purdy) didn’t get NIL, but it sure would help if the athletes that actually benefited from a scholarship and everything that comes with it gave back to the school and AD that helped them get to where they are today. I’m sure some of them are contributing, but don’t ask middle class me to donate to the cause when I just paid off my own student loans and they got a free education and making multi-millions each year to play a game.

Haliburton and Niang have been supporting MBB.

 

[David Freshman1982]

I will be giving money to ISU someday in my will, but it will be for need-based academic scholarships, not athletics. Better legacy if nothing else, and an education is still a worthwhile thing.

 

[David Freshman1982]

Haliburton and Niang have been supporting MBB.

Tyrese is essentially providing in-kind benefits to ISU at this point as a quasi-ambassador for the school and the athletics program. He is very visible at on-campus events several times a year, and talks up ISU whenever prompted. Good kid--and rich!

 

[SolarGarlic]

Guys like Campbell left for jobs like Penn State long before the NIL era. I don't know why Hassel can't let it go. He talks like he's rooting for Iowa State, but it certainly seems like he takes great enjoyment out of pouring salt in that wound, as if it signifies the demise of our entire University.

That's his whole schtick. Take the alarmist/worst case scenario position for Iowa State. Then CW sucks up to him about Iowa's position in any topic.

 

[jsb]

That's his whole schtick. Take the alarmist/worst case scenario position for Iowa State. Then CW sucks up to him about Iowa's position in any topic.

And that's why people complain about him.

 

[Letterkenny]

That's his whole schtick. Take the alarmist/worst case scenario position for Iowa State. Then CW sucks up to him about Iowa's position in any topic.

CW has been pushing back a lot lately. Taking more jabs at Iowa.

I think Hassel is actually pretty grounded when he talks about Iowa, if not pessimistic (other than McCollum who he thinks is the greatest coach in the history of basketball, and he's not joking). He does always take the alarmist approach when talking about Iowa State though. I'm guessing he has a pessimistic personality in general though.

 

[SolarGarlic]

The revisionist history wears a little thin, IMO. For months, and years really, everyone fawned over Wendy Wintersteen as a president who really "got" athletics and was highly supportive. Now that she's gone the people who know are clearly suggesting that wasn't as true as they made it out to be at the time. In just one month on the job, David Cook is making inroads that apparently nobody else before him could?

I suppose at some point it's on me as a listener to be more discerning and stop taking things at face value.

She was sports forward in that she let JP do whatever he wanted. Cook is sports forward in knowing that we now need more than that. In Wendy's defense, things changed drastically during her tenure. From what we've heard, Cook better understands the new challenge.

 

[SolarGarlic]

If Pollard feels undermined instead of thankful for having a boss that is getting in the trenches with the athletic department then that's a poor reflection on JP.

So you're coming to a conclusion based in speculation when responding to a post that does the same? Lol

 

[cyclo120]

Chris Williams and Brent Blum dissect Audi Crooks’ decision to leave Iowa State and everything that comes with it. The transfer portal official opens this week, while the industry within college sports continues to be on fire. Arizona couldn’t bring the Big 12 a championship in men’s basketball. All this and more, presented by Mechdyne.

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I do agree it seems to be the best way forward in women's basketball to have a team oriented approach without the start power since we don't have the funds to compete with the top programs, to retain and honestly probably shouldn't be using those on non-revenue sports in todays environment anyway. The only flaw with that plan is to stay competitive with that approach you need a very innovative coach to both strategically and motivationally get that team to play to the best of their ability. I think that has proven to be a major concern in recent years.

 

[SolarGarlic]

CW has been pushing back a lot lately. Taking more jabs at Iowa.

I think Hassel is actually pretty grounded when he talks about Iowa, if not pessimistic (other than McCollum who he thinks is the greatest coach in the history of basketball, and he's not joking). He does always take the alarmist approach when talking about Iowa State though. I'm guessing he has a pessimistic personality in general though.

I don't know. If they switched places, Hassel would be questioning if McCollom can win without Stirtz. And Folgeras potentially transferring? What a blow to the culture and fanbase. You have this March hero potentially leaving the Hawks? What does that say about the level of support Iowa basketball has in NIL and how will the fans respond when they finally invest in the team, and one of the most recognizable guys on the team may not come back? Those are easy talking points that if the shoe were on the other foot, Hassel would be hammering home. But instead, all we hear is CW say how awesome the kid from Storm Lake is.

 

[Stevetasker]

I don't know. If they switched places, Hassel would be questioning if McCollom can win without Stirtz. And Folgeras potentially transferring? What a blow to the culture and fanbase. You have this March hero potentially leaving the Hawks? What does that say about the level of support Iowa basketball has in NIL and how will the fans respond when they finally invest in the team, and one of the most recognizable guys on the team may not come back? Those are easy talking points that if the shoe were on the other foot, Hassel would be hammering home. But instead, all we hear is CW say how awesome the kid from Storm Lake is.

He's obviously doing it to get more Iowa fan listens. Any station or channel that employs Andrew Downs is one that I will avoid. He belong on Fox News imo.

 

[ISU22CY]

So you're coming to a conclusion based in speculation when responding to a post that does the same? Lol

That's why I started with If

 

[Cyched]

I don't know. If they switched places, Hassel would be questioning if McCollom can win without Stirtz. And Folgeras potentially transferring? What a blow to the culture and fanbase. You have this March hero potentially leaving the Hawks? What does that say about the level of support Iowa basketball has in NIL and how will the fans respond when they finally invest in the team, and one of the most recognizable guys on the team may not come back? Those are easy talking points that if the shoe were on the other foot, Hassel would be hammering home. But instead, all we hear is CW say how awesome the kid from Storm Lake is.

CW and Hassel have good chemistry, but there’s one flaw when it comes to the rivalry banter: Hassel is a lifelong Hawk fan, while CW was a childhood Hawk fan until he converted when he got to ISU.

Obviously that doesn’t make him less of a Cyclone fan, especially with all he’s done for ISU via this website. But he does appear to look back fondly on those childhood memories, especially when he talks about his late uncle and the time they spent bonding around the Hawkeyes. He doesn’t do it on purpose, but I think talking Hawks with Hassel brings back some of that nostalgia.

Blum would honestly be better as an “equal” sparring partner. Hell I’d probably pay money to watch or listen to Blum and Hassel going at it during CyHawk week.

 

[jsb]

CW and Hassel have good chemistry, but there’s one flaw when it comes to the rivalry banter: Hassel is a lifelong Hawk fan, while CW was a childhood Hawk fan until he converted when he got to ISU.

Obviously that doesn’t make him less of a Cyclone fan, especially with all he’s done for ISU via this website. But he does appear to look back fondly on those childhood memories, especially when he talks about his late uncle and the time they spent bonding around the Hawkeyes. He doesn’t do it on purpose, but I think talking Hawks with Hassel brings back some of that nostalgia.

Blum would honestly be better as an “equal” sparring partner. Hell I’d probably pay money to watch or listen to Blum and Hassel going at it during CyHawk week.

You know who I think would be good at that? Grant Mahoney.