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Interesting coincidence Johnny’s first tournament appearance at Iowa St 1985 was the year the bracket expanded from 48 to 64.
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Interesting coincidence Johnny’s first tournament appearance at Iowa St 1985 was the year the bracket expanded from 48 to 64.
On some level like McCarney. His results weren't anything special or nationally relevant (but for a few weeks in 2002) but he got fans engaged after an extended period of suck and remained well-loved by fans
It’s so far from revisionist history. He made our basketball relevant when it had never been. Half empty arena was turned into Hilton Magic. Made Tim Floyd want our job instead of some other teams. Was constantly promoting Iowa State basketball on the sports shows . Yeah he made it a spot talent wanted to go.
I felt the 2013 team under Fred really got screwed out of a sweet 16. . We should have been up 5 with a 1:40 left but they called a BS charge on Clyburn, it wasn't, it was a blocking foul on Cherry Cheeks. Wiped the FG off the board and the free throw attempt. Charles Barkley in the post game even called it out and said it was a screw job. That very play caused a rule change for the next season
Relevant? Please expound on that. 2 winning conference records and 5 20 win seasons in 14 years makes one relevant?
oh this again. Okay, here we go. Orr had to come in and take over a TERRIBLE program. In his 4th season he got us to the NIT tournament and his 5th to the NCAAs. His 1986 teams was 4 points from the elite 8. After he got it going, his teams made the NCAA Tournament 6 out of his last 9 seasons. Could have had another one but his star center Loren Meyer was hit by a train and had to miss the conference portion of the season. If Orr was selfish, he could have stayed on that last year and coached a team of 7 seniors that he recruited and would have undoubtedly made the tournament with that group. It is also important to consider the Big 8 that Orr had to coach in was absolutely brutal. Orr got us a lot of Big 10 schools and good non conference teams to come to Hilton and he smoked them most of the time. Also keep in mind the Burger King incident kind of derailed things for a bit. Most importantly, and this should never be down played, is Orr brought in great talent and created tons of excitement to Iowa State basketball. He created one of the best home environments in the history of the game.
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You'd better ask the AD that extended his contract while we were slding backwards that question...
He had 2 NBA players on the team in the late 80s/90 and another really good player (didn’t make grades?) and the Burger King situation. They could have made a run with those three. Then he recruited the Fred class for one more run.
Eustachy only made two NCAAs in five seasons. Both teams were conference champions, one made the Elite 8 and the other had an epic flame out against a 15 seed. Tim Floyd had a good run having never lost in the first round in three tournaments including one Sweet 16. Other that TJ, these are the only two ISU coaches who have a winning record in the big dance. I think that TJ has accomplished more than either one even through he still needs to get a conference championship, Elite 8 and Final Four.
Iowa State is 25-23 overall in the tournament in the modern era which I find to be pedestrian at best. Here are ISU's under seeded wins and over seeded losses since 1985:
Iowa State is 25-23 overall in the tournament in the modern era which I find to be pedestrian at best. Here are ISU's under seeded wins and over seeded losses since 1985:
| Wins Against Higher Seeded Teams | ||
| Johnny Orr | Michigan 7-2 | 1986 |
| TJ Otzelberger | Wisconsin 11-3 | 2022 |
| Tim Floyd | Cincinnati 6-3 | 1997 |
| TJ Otzelberger | LSU 11-6 | 2022 |
| Johnny Orr | UNC Charlotte 10-7 | 1992 |
| Fred Hoiberg | Notre Dame 10-7 | 2013 |
| Wayne Morgan | Minnesota 9-8 | 2005 |
| Losses Against Lower Seeded Teams | ||
| Larry Eustachy | Hampton 2-15 | 2001 |
| Fred Hoiberg | UAB 3-14 | 2015 |
| Steve Prohm | Ohio State 6-11 | 2019 |
| TJ Otzelberger | Pittsburgh 6-11 | 2023 |
| Johnny Orr | UCLA 8-9 | 1993 |
| Fred Hoiberg | Connecticut 3-7 | 2014 |
| TJ Otzelberger | Mississippi 3-6 | 2025 |
| TJ Otzelberger | Illnois 2-3 | 2024 |
Otz has 11 if you count the next four games in this year's tournament.
It was a different era. It’s an era where Hayden Fry went 8-4 and 9-3 and Hawkeye fans still hate Ferentz when he goes 11-2. The big dogs back then were paying so much for players. It wasn’t like today. There is a reason he never got fired with what he did at Iowa state. He coached Michigan to the final four. He was a great coach and we just didn’t have any resources
Johnny has been known to say that if you go .500 at Iowa State they will fill your ******* freezer with beef.
Sam Mack robbed the Burger King, a place that had his picture on the wall...
No kidding. If Johnny were around during social media, he wouldn’t have lasted 14 years.
I think TJ is still our best coach ever but a player doing something stupid shouldn’t be held against Johnny
I hold nothing against Our, I loved the guy. Just explaining what happened.
If Jaime lets TJ go, Jaime won’t have much time left either.
This is the worst post I have ever seen on this site. And that is saying a lot.
Plus, Mack was acquitted. He was not guilty of anything out of those circumstances.
