Bill Fennelly
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Iowa media, and especially a media business built on being a fan, is not going to push hard on a women's basketball coach who essentially created the program from scratch. I always laugh at the folks who expect the media to challenge coaches like they're covering the Boston Celtics.
Life is about trying things and being uncomfortable, especially when your young. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't, but if you don't try, you'll never know. Understand your value, clarify the offer and what it means , and get your buck while getting some fresh air. AB is capable of being successful, anywhere if the expectations are understood. I think being pushed by a better coach would only make her more money, post graduation.
If they cant woo Jennie Baranczyk or Mark Campbell, we could do much worse than Billy.
I would guess crooks is gone and probably brown as well. Why would both come back when the same thing has happened three years in a row. Crooks is a special offensive player, but needs much better talent around her to hide her defensive deficiencies. You can argue that crooks brown and Williams are the only three athletes on the team. Crooks is such a huge liability that we can't full court press if we get behind because she can't get back. It's time to blow this up and start over because next year will be the exact same thing. We will beat up lesser talent, but get our butts beat when we play good teams, and we will end up in more mediocrity.
She was a high-end 3 level scorer & a sensational RBer, especially for a guard….
But to play in that league, you have to be at least an above average scorer and an above average perimeter defender, or….an otherworldly scorer & elite playmaker.
I have a gut feeling, hope I’m right, we might only lose 1 or 2. My biggest worry is that Addy will get some pressure to find a better support situation for improvement to have a good pro career. But she knows better than anyone else how much her health has impacted the growth in her game. I think Audi values her connectedness too much to leave. I think all the talk about how close this team is is very real. One or two key SO or JR additions (defense!) could really make us a great team next year.
Bingo…. when you’re 30 and even 40 it seems pretty important. When you’re 50+ you realize it never really was that important.
Now, that’s easy for a fat, balding, middle-aged white man to say… But there’s a lot of things in my life that if I could change (don’t actually foster regret, its useless ) money would be way down at the bottom of the list of things I considered.
Jesus Christ, family, family, family & friends would come way before
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In my opinion, Addy is the one that matters. As I’ve now preemptively said 50 times I’m a big Audi Crooks fan. When she’s rock’n & rollin’ her and the Cy- ladies are fun to watch and she’s a joy of a human being… But I believe Addy Brown is a future WNBA player with the right growth and she would be a monumental loss. More so than Audi in my opinion.
The lowest seed ever to win the NCAA women's tournament is 3. 16 different teams...total...have ever won the title. Heck, only 20 unique ones have lost the title game!
The NCAA tournament and the elite tier of college basketball is not an open tournament. Its title should not be the goal of most teams. The discrepancy is much too great. Early round wins and conference tournament success is the unspoken objective of every sane coach who isnt at UCONN, South Carolina or not named Muffit McGuillicuddy, victim of circus pants.
So last season for the Cyclones was successful. This one was not. They didnt crush Syracuse and should have. They played like crap in the real tourney. Too bad.
The NCAA tournament and the elite tier of college basketball is not an open tournament. Its title should not be the goal of most teams. The discrepancy is much too great. Early round wins and conference tournament success is the unspoken objective of every sane coach who isnt at UCONN, South Carolina or not named Muffit McGuillicuddy, victim of circus pants.
So last season for the Cyclones was successful. This one was not. They didnt crush Syracuse and should have. They played like crap in the real tourney. Too bad.
LOL Jenny B is out of our price range.
Jennie isn’t leaving OU to get less NIL, nor is Campbell and the coach that left Florida Gulf Coast (Karl Smesko) after 20 years to go to the WNBA. Shows there are way more coaches in women’s college basketball than casuals would realize. Never in 100 years would I pick anyone currently on Iowa State staff over many many many options.
There are several very good women’s basketball coaches right here in the Midwest
EXACTLY. And these are 2nd tier coaches. The gap between 1st and second is huge but once you realize you have to drop to 3rd...Fennelly looks much much better.
Im getting way ahead of myself because Bill isn’t going anywhere, but…
We have the model that works at ISU now. We need coaches who can instill the “controllables” into the team: full effort all the time. We won’t have the best talent or the highest budget (but I repeat myself). Coaches who can identify underrated players and get maximum effort out of them can have success at ISU.
We need to find that coach on the women’s side who fits within our price range.
If your bar is to only look at poaching coaches from the top of the P4 then no we can't afford them.
We could have afforded Molly Miller before ASU got her. Right now, we could afford Kaya Karuis from Green Bay who has went 54-14 in her two seasons there.
To some maybe...but not to everyone! Some see a guy who gives the effort of a semi-retired guy. Some see him as a coach who just doesn't mesh with today's game. Some see a guy who is living off of past success. A young, aggressive coach looks pretty good in comparison. Doesn't guarantee anything though...but what does Fennelly bring to the picture? Success from the late 90s/early 00s?
