Big 12 Wrestling Tournament

[stuclone]

I thought you had to go out and start the match for it to count?

Vinny is good for an at large. The staff clarified before the tournament that a MFF counts as a match and has it in writing from the NCAA that it does. He will be eligible

 

[ISU_Cyclones]

This is great, I’ve been stressing about this ever since it was brought up.

 

[David Freshman1982]

Hi all, I was reading through the thread, can someone tell me what it means when people were saying an injury "drops us down to a tie for 5th with Iowa", I don't get it? Are you just talking about national rankings? And if so, why does that matter, I thought bids to the NCAAs was based strictly on performances at the conference championships? Sorry if too dumb...

 

[CycloneCarl5]

The autos are given to the conference tourney. Say they gave 5 to 157. The top 5 placers at the tourney get the autos. There are 4-5 at larges for each weight for situations like Vinny’s. You just don’t want 5-6 infront of a Vinny to also not finish in the allocations.

I knew all that but I thought that they passed some deal where you have to wrestle, like go out to the mat and start the match two times to be able to receive a at large.

Edit: I have since read through comments and I get it know. Thanks to all for the clarifications on the at large criteria

 

[LindenCy]

Man, I had to run out and missed the Euton comeback and Gaitan winning. I hope that I can watch replays later because ESPN+ doesn't seem to have it up right now.

 

[CycloneCarl5]

Man, I had to run out and missed the Euton comeback and Gaitan winning. I hope that I can watch replays later because ESPN+ doesn't seem to have it up right now.

You can but you’ll have to skip through the broadcast to get to it.

 

[iastatefan1]

Hi all, I was reading through the thread, can someone tell me what it means when people were saying an injury "drops us down to a tie for 5th with Iowa", I don't get it? Are you just talking about national rankings? And if so, why does that matter, I thought bids to the NCAAs was based strictly on performances at the conference championships? Sorry if too dumb...

You score points at ncaas by winning matches, bonus, and placement. They project what your team will score based on rankings. We lose a decent amount of points with no frost at 33 (maybe other injuries). So our chances at a trophy get slimmer when you swap grice for frost.

 

[PantherCyclone]

Man, I had to run out and missed the Euton comeback and Gaitan winning. I hope that I can watch replays later because ESPN+ doesn't seem to have it up right now.

They were up about 10 minutes ago when I watched them. You might want to check again.

 

[David Freshman1982]

You score points at ncaas by winning matches, bonus, and placement. They project what your team will score based on rankings. We lose a decent amount of points with no frost at 33 (maybe other injuries). So our chances at a trophy get slimmer when you swap grice for frost.

OK, so projections for NCAAs, I get that. Still holding out hope for a podium finish if some of our guys over-perform then, but 4/5/6 most likely. And as always, no one will challenge PSU.

 

[iastatefan1]

OK, so projections for NCAAs, I get that. Still holding out hope for a podium finish if some of our guys over-perform then, but 4/5/6 most likely. And as always, no one will challenge PSU.

You are correct performance on the mat is what matters but most of your points are scored by bonus (rarer at ncaas since the wrestlers are better) and above that high placers (1st gets 16 8th only gets 3 pts) so we are counting on big points already from yonger, rocky and ech. Hopefully they dont falter and we get others to contribute and overperform.

 

[JM4CY]

OK, so projections for NCAAs, I get that. Still holding out hope for a podium finish if some of our guys over-perform then, but 4/5/6 most likely. And as always, no one will challenge PSU.

Iowa will have a couple guys under perform and crap the bed. It’s a tail as old as time. We should still be in decent shape as far as they go

 

[CycloneCarl5]

Side note, the finals aren’t on regular TV, you’ll have to stream from ESPN+. When is the last time it hasn’t been on network TV?

 

[jkbuff98]

One injury was a head to head collision and the the other two were knee injuries that are prototypical high level college wrestling. Nothing to see here or start conversations about training or practice scheduling….

Both athletes had knee injuries before the tournament Grice in Nov and just back in Feb

 

[matclone]

SIAP. Did KD or anyone clarify Zerban's situation? Could we have sent him out for a second match and injury default right away to get his two matches and auto-bid? Or did he fail protocol and it would have been inappropriate to even send him out?

Would be a shame if he didn’t get an at-large and it could have been handled differently.

I don't know but I suspect our experienced coaching staff knows the rules at least as well as the brain trust on this forum.

The other thing is, maybe Zerban had a serious concussion and his health is more important than the wishes of some Cyclone wrestling fans.

 

[theshadow]

QUALIFIED (9)
125 Poulin
133 Grice
141 Echemendia
149 J. Frost
165 Euton
174 Gaitan
184 Dean
197 Elam
285 Bastida

NEEDS AT-LARGE (1)
157 Zerban

 

[RonBurgundy]

I don't know but I suspect our experienced coaching staff knows the rules at least as well as the brain trust on this forum.

The other thing is, maybe Zerban had a serious concussion and his health is more important than the wishes of some Cyclone wrestling fans.

Cool

 

[theshadow]

So, no possibility of a wrestleback?

No, the coaches didn't suddenly vote to change the tournament format in the last few hours.

 

[Htowncyfan]

When Vinny AAs we’ll forget all this nonsense again (until Big 12’s next year).

 

[stuclone]

@Ryan Rohlk which athletes will be on the radio tonight talking about “Cowboy politics”?

 

[duafox]

No, the coaches didn't suddenly vote to change the tournament format in the last few hours.

Why be a ****