Chicago Bears bought Arlington Heights track only to build in Indiana?

Wolf Lake area, really? Fuel depots and industrial sites galore. Wonder how many superfund cleanup sites that place has. I feel myself getting cancer from just looking at an aerial of the place.

Not to mention Interstate access is horrible to that whole area and general lack of surface streets that will be able to handle game day traffic.
I know nothing of Wolf Lake so I do appreciate the info. It is really that blighted?
 
Pro sports in the US is the most anti fan sports ecosystem in the world.
"The taxpayers aren't going to pay for our new stadium so we can price out the common fan??? Fine we'll move to another city, another state, another region of the country."

You don't see this BS in other countries. A city has a team, they might build a new stadium but they don't move to a different state, or equivalent.

At least this is in the same region of the country I guess but sheesh this is gross.

This sort of **** trickles it's way down to the college level and ruins everything.
 
Pro sports in the US is the most anti fan sports ecosystem in the world.
"The taxpayers aren't going to pay for our new stadium so we can price out the common fan??? Fine we'll move to another city, another state, another region of the country."

You don't see this BS in other countries. A city has a team, they might build a new stadium but they don't move to a different state, or equivalent.

At least this is in the same region of the country I guess but sheesh this is gross.

This sort of **** trickles it's way down to the college level and ruins everything.

I'm sure the area will get cleaned up before they start the project, and it will look pretty nice once it's all finished. Pro sports teams have been moving around since the beginning of pro sports. Yet, we still crave pro football. It's nothing new. I mean, the New York Giants and Jets don't play in the state of New York. Nobody seems to care. The Cowboys headquarters and stadium? Neither one in Dallas, and they are a 40 min drive from each other. Not a big deal IMO.
 
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Honestly it seems like a win win, Indiana gets to give away $2 billion dollars that Illinois didn't want to, and it looks like this site is actually closer to the current Soldier Field than Arlington Heights is.

Indiana spends dough to develop a wasteland

Illinois taxpayers are off the hook

Chicago still gets the tourists in town for a Final 4, SuperBowl, Wrestlemania, etc.

Ship the Bears out.
 
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I'm sure the area will get cleaned up before they start the project, and it will look pretty nice once it's all finished. Pro sports teams have been moving around since the beginning of pro sports. Yet, we still crave pro football. It's nothing new. I mean, the New York Giants and Jets don't play in the state of New York. Nobody seems to care. The Cowboys headquarters and stadium? Neither one in Dallas, and they are a 40 min drive from each other. Not a big deal IMO.
Is it just me, or is this a US-Pro-Sports-Centric issue? Man City and Liverpool actually play sports in Manchester and in Liverpool. Our sports stadium locations are completely determined upon which locality is willing to give up the most tax dollars to fund them, then followed by the new stadiums constantly raising prices to attend games and buy stuff inside them either way.
 
I know nothing of Wolf Lake so I do appreciate the info. It is really that blighted?

It's pretty close to Lake Michigan. I could see that area getting a face lift and being a great site once they put in the Stadium and all of the stuff they put around them these days.
 
I'm sure the area will get cleaned up before they start the project, and it will look pretty nice once it's all finished. Pro sports teams have been moving around since the beginning of pro sports. Yet, we still crave pro football. It's nothing new. I mean, the New York Giants and Jets don't play in the state of New York. Nobody seems to care. The Cowboys headquarters and stadium? Neither one in Dallas, and they are a 40 min drive from each other. Not a big deal IMO.
I think there’s a difference between moving in the same metro area and moving to a completely different part of the country. I don’t have a problem with teams moving to a different part of an area (although I don’t think they should get public money), but have a much bigger issue when they move to a different area of the country because you’re abandoning the fans.

Ideally all teams would be owned like the packers, but considering that’s not going to happen, I feel like if a team movies they should be formally contract the teams and give the IP to the city/metro area. You choose a new city, but if you’re moving the team clearly it means that you failed, and you shouldn’t be able to take the IP from the people that it means so much to.
 
Is it just me, or is this a US-Pro-Sports-Centric issue? Man City and Liverpool actually play sports in Manchester and in Liverpool. Our sports stadium locations are completely determined upon which locality is willing to give up the most tax dollars to fund them, then followed by the new stadiums constantly raising prices to attend games and buy stuff inside them either way.
Moving in the city isn’t unheard of, but as far as I know, relocations pretty much never happen (I just know of one in England).

I feel like part of that is a lack of promotion/relegation. If you want an NFL team in Las Vegas, a team needs to move it the NFL needs to expand. If you want a premier league team in a specific English city, you either buy the local team that’s there and if it’s successful enough it will be promoted to the Premier League, or you can start your own team.
 
I think there’s a difference between moving in the same metro area and moving to a completely different part of the country. I don’t have a problem with teams moving to a different part of an area (although I don’t think they should get public money), but have a much bigger issue when they move to a different area of the country because you’re abandoning the fans.

Ideally all teams would be owned like the packers, but considering that’s not going to happen, I feel like if a team movies they should be formally contract the teams and give the IP to the city/metro area. You choose a new city, but if you’re moving the team clearly it means that you failed, and you shouldn’t be able to take the IP from the people that it means so much to.

If Naperville = Chicago the Hammond can do the same

Throw the goddam White Sox out too
 
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I know nothing of Wolf Lake so I do appreciate the info. It is really that blighted?

meh, its coming up because the railline and cheaper housing. its very much industrial area. you can take the fancy bridge around there for $20? i think i forget. i have a toll pass
 
If Naperville = Chicago the Hammond can do the same

Throw the goddam White Sox out too
Sure, I don’t think the Bears moving to Indiana is some big issue because it’s all part of the same metro area. It’s like the Giants and Jets playing in New Jersey.
 
Isn’t it right off I-90?
Depends on where the actual site is, but there's not a single exit built to handle gameday traffic, especially anywhere near the lake. The amount of public infrastructure dollars needed to make this work are going to be huge.
 
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