Taylor’s search committee already has their top candidate— Doug Gottlieb.
Tang gonna Tang
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Taylor’s search committee already has their top candidate— Doug Gottlieb.
This was the day before the firing. Tim Fitz says Lon Kruger should help out the KSU program and help guide the selection of the next coach, but it can't be his son Kevin Kruger (followed Otz as coach at UNLV).
edit: for those that don't know, Lon Kruger played at KSU back in early 70s
edit: for those that don't know, Lon Kruger played at KSU back in early 70s
Kansas State Head Coach Hot Board: Top candidates to replace Jerome Tang
Kansas State parted ways with Jerome Tang on Sunday night. On3 takes a look at potential candidates for the opening.
Steve Forbes cannot be a serious name for KSU
hes done jack squat at WF
Lon is to KSU what Gary Thompson is to ISU. hes helped ISU in like half their ISU MBB searches
minus the coaching part for Gary
As others have said, the whole "for cause" issue has got to be nothing but a negotiation tactic. I believe a lot of so called for cause firings are just that, they say for cause, so they have at least an option to not immediately pay the buyout and give them a chance to negotiate something at least somewhat lower.
If they dont say for cause then they owe the entire buyout without negotiation, if they at least fire for cause they can at least try to negotiate something, and in reality even if it is just a small reduction it still is a win for them. Reducing buyout to 12-15M and extending the payout over more years saves them a lot, and that 3-6M saved means they have that much to put towards new coach etc.
That being said I think Tang will have a serious decision on whether to fight for the entire amount, which he "should" win, but you never know in court, or taking even a small reduction and riding off into the sunset.
I dont know how they would get him to take anything below 10M, unless there is more we dont know, but 12-15M probably doable.
If they dont say for cause then they owe the entire buyout without negotiation, if they at least fire for cause they can at least try to negotiate something, and in reality even if it is just a small reduction it still is a win for them. Reducing buyout to 12-15M and extending the payout over more years saves them a lot, and that 3-6M saved means they have that much to put towards new coach etc.
That being said I think Tang will have a serious decision on whether to fight for the entire amount, which he "should" win, but you never know in court, or taking even a small reduction and riding off into the sunset.
I dont know how they would get him to take anything below 10M, unless there is more we dont know, but 12-15M probably doable.
They probably can't afford a serious name.Kansas State Head Coach Hot Board: Top candidates to replace Jerome Tang
Kansas State parted ways with Jerome Tang on Sunday night. On3 takes a look at potential candidates for the opening.www.on3.com
Steve Forbes cannot be a serious name for KSU
hes done jack squat at WF
I wonder if Tang would have any recourse, ie damages, against KSU if it was proven that throwing the "for cause" out there caused irreparable harm to his ability to attract and obtain a new coaching position. I would think that could get very very messy for KSU.
They could find a really good coach at a lower level, but knowing Taylor, they probably won’t. It will be either someone like Shane Southwell who is connected to their program (and likely cheap) or it will be someone like a Ross Hodge or Steve Lutz-type who we haven’t heard of. Could work out fine, more likely is a Prohm situation.
They can’t afford Underwood and does he really want to leave what he has at Illinois? I don’t think so.
Oh I am sure there are many things he and his lawyers can claim, which will also be used as a negotiation tactic too.
In the end it will just depend on how far either side wants to push it, how far they take it, before some kind of settlement is reached.
I think a settlement of some sort is more likely than actually getting to court at this point.
Did Surly get a lifetime ban? He/She was at least entertaining from time to time.
WRT Underwood -- KSU is a MUCH worse job than Illinois, esp how he has them going now. Always 2nd fiddle to KU, worse recruiting grounds, less money both in AD and NIL... why would he go down like 2 tiers on the desirability scale? Plus he is making bank and a half.
I agree with your 1st paragraph, it will be a "friends and family" hire.
My guess: KSU will be able to show internal reprimand after reprimand -- including spygate -- and it will use these documented conversations to demonstrate that the Cincy game comments were the straw that broke the camel's back. In other words, it wasn't just the comments after the Cincy game.
You just got me thinking, it will probably be the NDSU guy. He’s done fairly well there and they are having a great season this year. Was an assistant for a long time before, back to Gene Taylor’s tenure.
The bulk of names on here aren't too flashy. Utah State coach would be a decent get though.
www.si.com
Ten Candidates for Kansas State Men’s Basketball Coaching Search After Jerome Tang’s Departure
There is a wealth of mid-major coaches who would be a good fit to make the leap to a power-conference gig.
www.si.com
This is what I was wondering too. If Tang beat this in court, could he potentially get a lot more than $18 million out of KSU if he counter sue’s for damages to his reputation, etc?
I definitely wouldn’t shed a tear if Tang ended up taking down KSU with him. KSU would deserve it for extending him in the first place.
I dont know. I saw they got at least some form of timeout, but not sure if total ban or what.
The hiring of TJ IMO proves that fit is more important than flash.The bulk of names on here aren't too flashy. Utah State coach would be a decent get though.
Ten Candidates for Kansas State Men’s Basketball Coaching Search After Jerome Tang’s Departure
There is a wealth of mid-major coaches who would be a good fit to make the leap to a power-conference gig.
Well Sheet
Fran Gone
Tang Gone
Who is at top of coaches I love to hate and hope they coach forever list?
Hurley at UCONN is so hateable but I don't want him to coach forever and we don't see them enough.
Little Hurley could state at ASU forever in my book but not super hateable.
McCollum might get there - need more time to build the hate and make sure he isn't too good.
Best chance is probably KSU screwing this hire up and bringing in a Tang jr.
Fran Gone
Tang Gone
Who is at top of coaches I love to hate and hope they coach forever list?
Hurley at UCONN is so hateable but I don't want him to coach forever and we don't see them enough.
Little Hurley could state at ASU forever in my book but not super hateable.
McCollum might get there - need more time to build the hate and make sure he isn't too good.
Best chance is probably KSU screwing this hire up and bringing in a Tang jr.
