He's not afraid to play to win.
No keeping it close and trying to win in the margins ********
No keeping it close and trying to win in the margins ********
Curt Cignetti
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I do not think Indiana really starting putting big money into NIL until after last season, they are now, but not when they hired him. Cignetti can really coach, he learned from the best in Saban, ISU took a chance on Campbell and he was learning on the job, being so young when we hired him. Coaches with more experience would have had a special teams coach on the staff from day 1, not waiting a decade.
True but CMC keeps 1st stringers in a blow out and they get hurt, and people start howling what an idiot he is! What's the right answer?
Sure. I'm sure Alabama's players are paid well too. Just happens that Indiana's have a better coach. Alabama's issues are not due to lack of quality players.
Well yeah, nobody is arguing Cignetti isn’t far better than DeBoer
Indiana certainly has more money than Iowa State but Indiana still doesn't have the talent that the Ohio State's and Bama's of the world have.....and you just saw Indiana steamroll Bama
NIL definitely helps but you still have to be a good coach....case in point, Joey McGuire had his program bankrolled by Cody Campbell and good for them....that said, you could tell that Lanning out-coached McGuire today....Oregon still has more overall talent but Texas Tech has been able to bully everyone by sheer talent advantage and the moment they played someone with equal/more talent, they do....that.
I think McGuire is a decent coach but he's no Cignetti/Dan Lanning.
So, what annoys me as a part-time Alabama fan since 1971 is that Nick Saban is the best CFB Coach of the Modern Era, he has really good successful coaches out there including FIVE (Kirby, Cignetti, Kiffin-Golding, Lanning, Cristobal) in this year's CFP, and they went out and hired that goober DeBoer who has no clue about Alabama Football. I know that it would be hard to lure most of those guys, but it's like they didn't even try! I joked that they should fire DeBoer, but they won't. However, I have 0 confidence that he will remotely live up to the standard. Not just the Saban standard. But the Stallings standard. The Bryant standard. The Thomas standard. The Wade standard. It's not that he just isn't as good as Saban, but his fails are really big serious fails. He took over a Cadillac and he lost to Vanderbilt for the first time since Reagan was President. He lost back to back games to OU with EVERYTHING on the line including being embarrassed @ OU last year, lost at home to end the longest home winning streak, bitched up against an awful Michigan team last year in the Bowl Game and laid a Templeton the Rat egg in the Rose Bowl this year two games after getting rocked by UGA @ Atlanta (ending a 17 game winning streak in ATL). I mean, DeBoer must have a really big ****, because he trips over it almost every damn week. They will not fire him in the first four years, but his ass is now permanently hot until he takes a job somewhere else. It's just a continued slide into mediocrity. / RANT
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ahhhhhhhhh that's why I trip so often
It seemed very much like a Flavor-of-the-Month hire coming off Washington's Natty Game appearance. But DeBoer was wildly outcoached in that game. I thought it was a weird hire from both ends. DeBoer would've been much better off staying at Wash and building something there. Why on earth he wanted to be the guy who follows the living legend at Alabama is beyond me.
I don't think DeBoer is a bad coach by any means. In fact, I'm of the opinion that if you can win at multiple levels, you are probably a pretty good coach. He's won everywhere he's been. The unfortunate reality for him is that he followed the greatest CFB HC of our lives. So his tenure at Bama is always going to be compared to what Saban did.
It's not that he followed Saban that is the issue. He inherited a Cadillac two years ago. Meanwhile Cignetti (a Saban protege) took over hapless Indiana two years ago. DeBoer has ****** Alabama up, and Cignetti just blew Alabama away looking like the 2009 National Championship Team (with Ingram, Julio Jones, McElroy, etc.) that Cignetti was a part of. Cignetti went to Indiana with a plan to WIN and got it done. DeBoer is floundering around. Oh, I forgot the disaster @ Florida State to open the season! We are not talking about losing one game and stuff like Ryan Day does, but a total destruction of the program. He may be a good coach for some places, but he was a poor hire for Alabama. Kudos to Cignetti and Indiana though. I hope they win it all.
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The best in the business right now and I'm not sure it's close. 25-2 at Indiana in 2 years? Gtfo. This is might be the best coaching job in college football history.
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They aren't even in the same stratosphere.
