Does the Big 12 want Notre Dame?

ND is not coming to the B12, they have something like 24 sports in the ACC, we do not even offer that many sports as a conference. Whether they like it or not, they are stuck in the ACC, because they would never go to the SEC and the B10 would never allow them to remain independent and park their other sports there.

They could go to the Big East. Stay indy in football. Not sure though if the Big East has all of the sports that the ACC does.
 
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16 would suck because it would just invalidate the regular season for a chunk of teams each year with how everything is currently set.

Yep totally agree that there can be more parity. Many top teams are still too but don’t have the depth due to the portal and NIL t just have a bench of 5 stars

Also sparty got in when it was just a 4 team playoff. Got boatraced that year wish it was a 4 team playoff the year before because that team was way better
Did the Big 10 propose a 24 playoff structure and each P4 get 4 AQs, or have they backed off that?
 
I think we're mostly agreeing but by "so many" you mean 4 out of 16. One of those 4 was Cinci who made a 4 team CFP. Another is BYU who needs no explanation. Houston and UCF not so much, though Houston had a couple good years this past decade. You go 11-0 and lose 1 game to the #4 team in the country in a P4 conference and its robbery regardless of perception. We need 5 SEC teams though.

UCF is a huge freaking school enrollment wise.

Re:bold: nobody EVER talks about Vanderbilt but apparently it's fine since they're in the SEC.
 
Did the Big 10 propose a 24 playoff structure and each P4 get 4 AQs, or have they backed off that?
Yeah they want to do that to have a conference playoff instead of just a championship. I don’t really agree with it but if they made both changes it would help a bit
 
ND is not coming to the B12, they have something like 24 sports in the ACC, we do not even offer that many sports as a conference. Whether they like it or not, they are stuck in the ACC, because they would never go to the SEC and the B10 would never allow them to remain independent and park their other sports there.
According to AI, Big 12 has 25 sports. Don’t know if that is true or not.
 
16 would suck because it would just invalidate the regular season for a chunk of teams each year with how everything is currently set.

Yep totally agree that there can be more parity. Many top teams are still too but don’t have the depth due to the portal and NIL t just have a bench of 5 stars

Also sparty got in when it was just a 4 team playoff. Got boatraced that year wish it was a 4 team playoff the year before because that team was way better
Haven't heard from Sparty since. What was that 10 years ago?

How would 16 invalidate the regular season exactly? It would just make more games mean more to teams that could get in. With the parody this year Vandy, Texas, BYU and Notre Dame could all make a run. Notre Dame could've won the whole thing this year. They were favored over every team in the field other than OSU and Indiana (They boat raced Indiana last year).
 
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This has probably been said, but why wouldn’t a Blue blood type team, say like ND, not want to join a conference like the B12 and solidify themselves as the perennial conference champion favorites?

It would force college football to stick with 3 power conferences at worst.


I don’t like a lot of things about ND but it would save the Big12 going forward in realignment and ND gets in the playoffs more years than not.
 
Why not use for CFP the system the NCAA uses for Hockey? No one complains about who is in or out there or at least very little.
 
Haven't heard from Sparty since. What was that 10 years ago?

How would 16 invalidate the regular season exactly? It would just make more games mean more to teams that could get in. With the parody this year Vandy, Texas, BYU and Notre Dame could all make a run. Notre Dame could've won the whole thing this year. They were favored over every team in the field other than OSU and Indiana (They boat raced Indiana last year).
Really? Team had 11 wins and a heisman hopeful 3 years ago.

Because with 16 teams certain squads will just get in every single season. It will make all the regular season games mean less. Everyone is appalled at bama getting in with 3 losses. At 16 teams that’s gonna be chaos.

I also don’t think there is as much parity as you think between the actual top teams this year and those on the fringe
 
Really? Team had 11 wins and a heisman hopeful 3 years ago.

Because with 16 teams certain squads will just get in every single season. It will make all the regular season games mean less. Everyone is appalled at bama getting in with 3 losses. At 16 teams that’s gonna be chaos.

I also don’t think there is as much parity as you think between the actual top teams this year and those on the fringe
So Michigan State is good 1 year out of 10. I guess they probably still wouldn't get into a 16 or 24 team playoff very often then. My bad.

Certain squads get in pretty much every year now anyway What difference would it make if BYU, Texas, Notre Dame and Vady or Utah or USC all got in? All of those teams could make a run. I would take an extra round of playoff games over stupid ass bowl games any day.
 
This has probably been said, but why wouldn’t a Blue blood type team, say like ND, not want to join a conference like the B12 and solidify themselves as the perennial conference champion favorites?

It would force college football to stick with 3 power conferences at worst.


I don’t like a lot of things about ND but it would save the Big12 going forward in realignment and ND gets in the playoffs more years than not.

Like a lot of the blue bloods, they wouldn't be able to handle getting beat by non blue bloods.
 
ND will send non football sports to the Big East again I imagine. I don't think they'll want anything to do with another FB alliance. It will open them up to schedule whoever they want. It'll be interesting to see which way they go, cupcake it up to guarantee a top 12 rating every year or go after bigger wins.

The funny thing is, ND got screwed over bc the SEC isn't actually that good top to bottom this year, that mattered more than the h2h with Miami. The bottom half of that league didn't upset anyone, except for FLA beating Texas, it allowed the top teams to rack up a lot of wins and the unbalanced conference schedule allowed the big boys to avoid just enough of each other to not knock everyone out. Tennessee and Mizzou won a combined 16 games this year and one of those was against a bowl eligible team (Mizzou over Louisiana...not LSU...the Ragin Cagjuns) and somehow still lurked in and around the top 25 most of the year. The SEC is the only league where that's possible.
 
ND will send non football sports to the Big East again I imagine. I don't think they'll want anything to do with another FB alliance. It will open them up to schedule whoever they want. It'll be interesting to see which way they go, cupcake it up to guarantee a top 12 rating every year or go after bigger wins.

The funny thing is, ND got screwed over bc the SEC isn't actually that good top to bottom this year, that mattered more than the h2h with Miami. The bottom half of that league didn't upset anyone, except for FLA beating Texas, it allowed the top teams to rack up a lot of wins and the unbalanced conference schedule allowed the big boys to avoid just enough of each other to not knock everyone out. Tennessee and Mizzou won a combined 16 games this year and one of those was against a bowl eligible team (Mizzou over Louisiana...not LSU...the Ragin Cagjuns) and somehow still lurked in and around the top 25 most of the year. The SEC is the only league where that's possible.
Totally agree.
 
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According to AI, Big 12 has 25 sports. Don’t know if that is true or not.
I wonder if the sports that ND offers matches up with what the B12 offers. For example we offer sports in rifle and horse riding, which I doubt ND offers as a scholarship sport. ND as always is going to do what is best for ND, they are pissed at the ACC because the league throw its weight behind Miami that is a football member, while ND is not. The committee gave them no help, ranking ND above Miami until the final teams were chosen for the playoff. You really can't blame the ACC here, Miami gets in the league gets a cut of the profits, if ND would have gotten in and the league is left out, the ACC get nothing.
 
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