Yeah Penn state doesn’t make the blue blood cut
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Penn State football is like Arizona basketball. Really good, but a tier below the blue bloods in their sport.
They very much do make the blue blood cut. Money, Stadium, Winning history. Yeah they make the cut. You think an Iowa State or Michigan state coaching search would be making this much noise? Nah. It's making this much noise because they are a football powerhouse school.
That’s a really good comparison but also Penn state doesn’t even with their own conference very much unlike Arizona basketball used to
Don’t forget that they had to pay Kevin Steele $1M for two weeks of work shortly after he was hired as an assistant for Pruitt right before Pruitt was canned.
They aren’t a blue blood, both Wisconsin and MSU have more conference championships in the last 20 years then Penn state does.
They are Iowa with much better talent. They beat up on the teams they are supposed to and lose every big game. This keeps them ranked highly and they bring in awesome recurring classes to get good buzz but they aren’t a blue blood.
They don't. They're on the next rung down, which is still good teams, but they're not on the blue blood level as much as the big 10 would like them to be. The blue bloods are that top right corner, with Nebraska slowly slipping towards the back edge of that over the last decade+
I would say Clemson and down are the non blue bloods. For Miami and Floirda State not to be in is crazy talk. LSU is also in and in this chart they are listed below PSU.They don't. They're on the next rung down, which is still good teams, but they're not on the blue blood level as much as the big 10 would like them to be. The blue bloods are that top right corner, with Nebraska slowly slipping towards the back edge of that over the last decade+
Michigan
Ohio St
Notre Dame
Alabama
Oklahoma
USC
It’s history, championships, hardware, legendary athletes and coaches (plural is the key here).
Nebraska quickly becoming the football equivalent of Indiana basketball. Awesome history, mediocre in recent memory.
Ohio St
Notre Dame
Alabama
Oklahoma
USC
It’s history, championships, hardware, legendary athletes and coaches (plural is the key here).
Nebraska quickly becoming the football equivalent of Indiana basketball. Awesome history, mediocre in recent memory.
Nope. None of those count either.
There is a difference between "good program" and "blue blood" which tends to have had sustained success both in being 'generally good' and in having periods of dominance (which is why this graph with top 25 and top 5 as its x and y axis works well to show it) over long periods time across multiple coaching regimes. Most sources just consider the blue blood list the 8 in the upper right.
I take it you weren’t around for the 2003 Iowa State Men’s Basketball coaching search.
This smells like the Nebraska disaster in the early 2000s when they fired Solich and ended up with a failed NFL coach. I thoroughly enjoyed that era and am proud to say I have a picture of myself with the man that destroyed Nebr football.
What is the statute of limitations on success for being a “blue blood”? Because some of these teams have no been relevant in decades.
We’re far past the point where recruits were born during a time these schools were great.
We’re far past the point where recruits were born during a time these schools were great.
I’d say Penn State is more of a blue blood than Nebraska. And I don’t think PSU is a blue blood.They don't. They're on the next rung down, which is still good teams, but they're not on the blue blood level as much as the big 10 would like them to be. The blue bloods are that top right corner, with Nebraska slowly slipping towards the back edge of that over the last decade+
Anyone 12 and under has never seen the Huskers win 10 games. Anyone 24 and under has never seen them win a conference title.
Blue Blood is such a semantic concept. People can argue so many different ways and it will never be definitive.
Nebraska is definitely in danger of falling out if they continue on their current trajectory. That they're still in that grouping just shows how strong their historical dominance was- and is why they continue to get a massive amount of attention relative to the results they've seen the last 10 years.
