Another decommit

High school recruiting isn't going to be all that fun to follow for ISU fans, unfortunately. I don't mean because it's going to be really bad, it's just that unless you are going to spend hours looking at 3-star type guys trying to pick out who is going to work out and how they fit, it's just not going to be exciting. Sure, we will have some high level guys stick with us once in awhile but expecting a kid to turn down 6 figures right out of high school isn't reasonable.

tbh I'm not sure this is much of a shift from the way it's always been, at least for the CMC era. The difference today is we actually have more of the higher-end recruits giving ISU a look on the front end. More opportunity to 'get disappointed' later.
 
High school recruiting isn't going to be all that fun to follow for ISU fans, unfortunately. I don't mean because it's going to be really bad, it's just that unless you are going to spend hours looking at 3-star type guys trying to pick out who is going to work out and how they fit, it's just not going to be exciting. Sure, we will have some high level guys stick with us once in awhile but expecting a kid to turn down 6 figures right out of high school isn't reasonable.
It's like dating. At first you want to find the most attractive person. Then you realize people who are that worried about their appearance will dump you quickly once they find a person with better appearance than you. So you then focus to finding a person with great values and character

But if my wife is reading this.... she's the most attractive person and has great values/character.
 
"We can still be friends".
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I find it amusing that when someone switches to ISU from somewhere else (N. Illinois, Bowling Green etc..) we're happy and nothing is said about the high school athlete 'not being 100% committed' to the prior school. But when a high school athlete that was committed to ISU switches to another school, posters bring up the players '100% or 1000% committed' to ISU posts. Wish the athlete well and move on.

I'm glad that ISU coaches are getting Jett and Milan to commit to ISU; at least temporarily until a blue blood program steps in. Going forward, the goal is to keep them committed through signing day. But if we can't keep them committed, we will flip some more MAC or MVFC school commits to ISU. The wheel goes round and round.
 
tbh I'm not sure this is much of a shift from the way it's always been, at least for the CMC era. The difference today is we actually have more of the higher-end recruits giving ISU a look on the front end. More opportunity to 'get disappointed' later.
Maybe but do you think we're getting Breece Hall in today's environment? Do you think Allen Lazard sticks? It's not many guys, to be sure, but it's just going to be pretty tough to compete against some of the figures that are out there if guys are really wanted.

There is a difference now, though, where we are in a whole different group of teams with the same challenge. Before we with like Kansas and Washington State, maybe Vanderbilt. Now we're in a massive group with expectations of "getting there" but when it comes down to it we're outgunned by the top 20ish programs instead of being outgunned by the top 50ish programs so even though this is all seems bleak we're in such a better position than we've ever been.
 
It's like dating. At first you want to find the most attractive person. Then you realize people who are that worried about their appearance will dump you quickly once they find a person with better appearance than you. So you then focus to finding a person with great values and character

But if my wife is reading this.... she's the most attractive person and has great values/character.
That is some seriously good back pedaling... any chance you can play safety?
 
I love you that can find these complaints, verbatim, in decommit posts on this board from 2007. I bet there are local radio show clips from the 80s with the same "verbals ain't what they used to be, guess he saw dollar signs, etc"
 
Maybe but do you think we're getting Breece Hall in today's environment? Do you think Allen Lazard sticks? It's not many guys, to be sure, but it's just going to be pretty tough to compete against some of the figures that are out there if guys are really wanted.

There is a difference now, though, where we are in a whole different group of teams with the same challenge. Before we with like Kansas and Washington State, maybe Vanderbilt. Now we're in a massive group with expectations of "getting there" but when it comes down to it we're outgunned by the top 20ish programs instead of being outgunned by the top 50ish programs so even though this is all seems bleak we're in such a better position than we've ever been.

To your question, all I can say is... maybe? For every kid that gets the early offer, blows up and has to take that larger money bag (or whatever greener pasture) -- there will be a select few that actually stay committed. I think someone like Lazard would possibly stay true, Breece...who knows? Every situation is genuinely unique because it depends on what is important to the kid and family.

Big picture though, I agree with what you say next. I'm not really worried at all, and that was the unsaid part of my post above. The football program and culture is really healthy right now. The most critical thing at this point is keeping this football staff intact...not necessarily keeping every coach but keeping as many of them as possible, especially CMC. Hopefully we can keep Mouse and the Professor for several more years too. The player-led culture that's blossomed the last couple years in particular is what is going to keep this thing going, and I think that component will also attract the 'right kind' of players we can be successful at a high level with at Iowa State.
 
Once the new AD-administered NIL rules take place shouldn’t this stop being the norm? ISU will have just as much money to spend on players as Miami, et al. And it will just come down to does ISU want to allocate that much $ to any individual player versus just being out bid
 
Once the new AD-administered NIL rules take place shouldn’t this stop being the norm? ISU will have just as much money to spend on players as Miami, et al. And it will just come down to does ISU want to allocate that much $ to any individual player versus just being out bid
Or a kid feels some other program puts him in a better position to achieve his goals?
 
I used to be a huge high school recruit junkie for basketball and some football. Now, I just don't care until I see them play on the field. I still follow basketball recruiting. Football recruiting for me is more the transfer market.
 
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Once the new AD-administered NIL rules take place shouldn’t this stop being the norm? ISU will have just as much money to spend on players as Miami, et al. And it will just come down to does ISU want to allocate that much $ to any individual player versus just being out bid
I thought players could take the payment or opt for “true” NIL money? The latter will keep the big spenders where they are, if so.
 
Id like to start a new betting company... Guy will be in the portal after his freshman (insert odds) or sophomore (odds) season. Guy finishes career playing for 1 school (+10000).
 
When are teams going to start signing them to signing bonus's when they sign and have a penelty if they don't go through with it? Very strange they have no way of keeping kids to stick to something yet.
 
When are teams going to start signing them to signing bonus's when they sign and have a penelty if they don't go through with it? Very strange they have no way of keeping kids to stick to something yet.
I’m pretty sure they do. That’s how Tech got all those guys. Sign them to multi years deals mostly paid up front and if they leave they have to pay back a certain amount