Urban Meyer's take on balanced scheduling

[JP4CY]

This is going to start to become a bigger issue and I think will eventually lead the SEC to have to schedule 9 conference games.

(Also, there is a little irony with him discussing power noncons when tOSU didnt have one on the schedule this year. Cincy playing well helps with some of that I guess.)

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[enisthemenace]

He’s not wrong. Iowa State has a P5 home-and-home and 9 conference games every year. Seems to me that every P5 program should be working with something similar.

 

[Macloney]

He’s not wrong. Iowa State has a P5 home-and-home and 9 conference games every year. Seems to me that every P5 program should be working with something similar.

Why would they? Right now Alabama can beat LSU and Auburn, a very weak few other SEC games, along with the Colorado States, Fresno States, Western Carolinas, Southern Misses, Mercers and Dukes(this year and last year's non-cons) and play for a National Championship.

It seems to me that every P5 program, especially Iowa State should be working with something similar.

If the Clones don't have their non-con loss this year they would have a loss to an undefeated team and a decent conference opponent. THEY WOULD ALSO STILL BE RANKED.

 

[dualthreat]

He pretty much hit the nail on the head

 

[isutrevman]

The Big Ten starts playing 9 conference games, and suddenly everyone in the media thinks its unfair that the SEC doesn't. Meanwhile, the Big 12 had been playing 9 conference games for years, and no one cared.

 

[MeowingCows]

Why would they? Right now Alabama can beat LSU and Auburn, a very weak few other SEC games, along with the Colorado States, Fresno States, Western Carolinas, Southern Misses, Mercers and Dukes(this year and last year's non-cons) and play for a National Championship.

It seems to me that every P5 program, especially Iowa State should be working with something similar.

If the Clones don't have their non-con loss this year they would have a loss to an undefeated team and a decent conference opponent. THEY WOULD ALSO STILL BE RANKED.

This was the same argument used by FL fans when Pollard tweeted about this. My reply is the same now as then: if your solution is to water down the sport's competition level, then you don't have a solution at all (except they took it another level, blaming the Big 12 for enforcing 9 conference games instead of 8, but the point is still the same).

 

[KennyPratt42]

Every team should play 3 games against top 32 teams, 3 games against 33-65 teams, 3 games against 66-98 teams, and 3 games against bottom 32 teams. Based upon weighted results from the previous 3 years. It would take central scheduling by the NCAA or some other entity. Everyone should play 6 home games and 6 road games. Geographic preference should be made for match-ups and each team can have up to 2 protected rivalry games that count within those team rank categories.

 

[madguy30]

He’s not wrong. Iowa State has a P5 home-and-home and 9 conference games every year. Seems to me that every P5 program should be working with something similar.

Seems to me that super power conferences are looking worse every year and the B12's result from realignment is the most interesting way to do it even though they kind of fell into it.

This season there's not a great team in the conference, but these last four weeks have potential to be the most interesting of any conference for who plays in the CCG since nobody gets to avoid anyone.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

There is something wrong when we have a current system that allows Alabama or Auburn to yearly play fewer P5 scheduled games during the regular season than a school like Iowa State.

The way to end this is very simple, the playoff committee just passes a rule that states to qualify for their playoff, a school must play 10 P5 games during the regular season, conference championship games do not count for the total. That way each conference can decide on their own how many conference games they will play. But unless a school plays 10 P5 games, no playoff eligibility for that school.

 

[enisthemenace]

Why would they? Right now Alabama can beat LSU and Auburn, a very weak few other SEC games, along with the Colorado States, Fresno States, Western Carolinas, Southern Misses, Mercers and Dukes(this year and last year's non-cons) and play for a National Championship.

It seems to me that every P5 program, especially Iowa State should be working with something similar.

If the Clones don't have their non-con loss this year they would have a loss to an undefeated team and a decent conference opponent. THEY WOULD ALSO STILL BE RANKED.

It’s not about “would”, it’s about “should” and @MeowingCows explains why “the should” is how Iowa State’s schedule, for example, is structured every year.

 

[twojman]

The Big Ten starts playing 9 conference games, and suddenly everyone in the media thinks its unfair that the SEC doesn't. Meanwhile, the Big 12 had been playing 9 conference games for years, and no one cared.

How many times has the B1G made the playoffs since 9 conference game schedules?

Big 12 needs to get back to 8 game conference schedules as long as they are still allowed. Notice which conferences have made the playoff each season? ACC and SEC, they each have 8 conference games.

 

[DeereClone]

I think even beyond the number of games, all conferences should have the same format, either round robin (my preference) or divisions. Conferences with divisions can have top tier teams avoid each other all season, therefore those teams don’t “have to” lose, and it bolsters the perception of the conference by having more teams with less losses that are highly ranked, simply because they didn’t play each other.

 

[KCClone1]

I don’t blame the SEC or ACC. They are just working the system to their advantage and it is working for them. The NCAA needs to step in and set some uniform rules. It’s the old adage...don’t hate the player. Hate the game.

 

[cyclones500]

I'm OK allowing teams to schedule however they want and conferences to set the number of conference games as they wish. But when it comes to playoff ranking, SOS must be a true factor. Committee apparently considers it, but how much of it is lip service, and how much isn't? Is there any actual measurement/metric used for it?

To clarify: I know several SOS rankings exist, I'm just asking how much weight the committee truly gives it.

 

[isucy86]

How many times has the B1G made the playoffs since 9 conference game schedules?

Big 12 needs to get back to 8 game conference schedules as long as they are still allowed. Notice which conferences have made the playoff each season? ACC and SEC, they each have 8 conference games.

Playing fewer quality games is not the solution. Fans or the TV Networks do not want to see ISU, Alabama,etc. play more games against teams like LA Monroe. Yesterday was a horrible day from a TV watching perspective. Other than FL/GA - the national TV games stunk. I don't think I watched a full game and the games I did watch was half paying attention.

This isn't hard have everyone play 9 conference games and 10 Power 5 games. Simple solution It's silly that Florida's AD would be begging for teams to play them- just play another SEC game. I am sure their fans would rather see them play Missisippi, Miss. State or Arkansas than Iowa State or Indiana. Also it was a joke that North Carolina and Wake Forest played each other non-conference.

 

[cyclones500]

Also it was a joke that North Carolina and Wake Forest played each other non-conference.

A sidetrack (and to save me from any research work) -- how did that situation come about?

 

[isucy86]

A sidetrack (and to save me from any research work) -- how did that situation come about?

UNC & Wake value their rivalry, but they are in different divisions of ACC. So instead of going half a decade without playing, they scheduled game as non-conference.