Knee pain QC Kinetix?

[NWICY]

Has anyone every worked with them or a similar company? My dad has terrible knee pain and the cortisone shots aren't lasting very long anymore.

Pertinent info he is older, on blood thinners and has had heart issues in the past. When he bleeds it doesn't want to stop not so sure that is good for getting poked in the veins.

@FriendlySpartan tagging you in on this one. I would like to help my Dad but don't want to put him at unnecessary risk. I'm afraid they will say sure it's safe just to collect a check. I realize these type of treatments are not covered under insurance.

TIA on everyone's experiences with or opinions about this subject.

 

[nfrine]

The silence should be telling us something....

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Has anyone every worked with them or a similar company? My dad has terrible knee pain and the cortisone shots aren't lasting very long anymore.

Pertinent info he is older, on blood thinners and has had heart issues in the past. When he bleeds it doesn't want to stop not so sure that is good for getting poked in the veins.

@FriendlySpartan tagging you in on this one. I would like to help my Dad but don't want to put him at unnecessary risk. I'm afraid they will say sure it's safe just to collect a check. I realize these type of treatments are not covered under insurance.

TIA on everyone's experiences with or opinions about this subject.

I had to google who you were talking about as I had no idea. I’m always very skeptical about these companies as none of the treatments are FDA approved and when looking on their site I can’t find a single actual medical provider listed.

The idea behind the treatment isn’t anything too abnormal and I know of people who have done similar things with very mixed results but for your dad with other serious underlying conditions I would advise against it.

Being on blood thinners alone is enough to be extremely wary of this without actual medical supervision.

If I may ask, what is actually wrong with his knee? He’s obviously dealing with inflammation issues but is it from arthritis, injury, or other mechanical problems with the knee?

 

[KCCLONE712]

I've dealt with ankle and foot problems over the past several years, including capsulitis near my second metatarsal (second toe). I received treatment with a Class IV “cold” laser. It was fairly expensive. 75 bucks per session and took 6-7 sessions, but in that particular situation, it absolutely helped me. I have tried the same treatment for other injuries without noticing much improvement. I am not a doctor, but my impression is that inflammation may have been a major factor in the condition it successfully treated. If you do this, make sure you confirm with the practitioner, usually a chiropractor, it is a class 4 and ask for a free first treatment. Also... the only thing I will allow a DC to use or treat me with.

 

[NWICY]

I had to google who you were talking about as I had no idea. I’m always very skeptical about these companies as none of the treatments are FDA approved and when looking on their site I can’t find a single actual medical provider listed.

The idea behind the treatment isn’t anything too abnormal and I know of people who have done similar things with very mixed results but for your dad with other serious underlying conditions I would advise against it.

Being on blood thinners alone is enough to be extremely wary of this without actual medical supervision.

If I may ask, what is actually wrong with his knee? He’s obviously dealing with inflammation issues but is it from arthritis, injury, or other mechanical problems with the knee?

Arthritis and old age, he's farmed his whole life back when farming was highly physical. The Drs have never really found anything then arthritis I believe, they've pretty much ruled out knee replacements because of his age(mid 80s)

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Arthritis and old age, he's farmed his whole life back when farming was highly physical. The Drs have never really found anything then arthritis I believe, they've pretty much ruled out knee replacements because of his age(mid 80s)

Got ya. There are some arthritis meds he could take while still on blood thinners that could be worth looking into. It’s also worth figuring out what is triggering the flare ups or if it’s a constant issue regardless of movement or weight bearing.

Unfortunately with his age, pre existing conditions, and severity of pain there isn’t going to be a great fix here. I’d encourage asking his medial team about some topical options as well as the other meds to manage flare ups. I’m sorry to say that it’s more going to be about pain management and movement management then anything else which can make for some very difficult conversations

 

[CHim]

I see the advertisements for hemp/cbd products to treat things like this. Is that a real, viable option or just gas station marketing? Not to sideline the conversation, when you said topical treatments it was the first thing that came to mind.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I see the advertisements for hemp/cbd products to treat things like this. Is that a real, viable option or just gas station marketing? Not to sideline the conversation, when you said topical treatments it was the first thing that came to mind.

Biggest thing with CBD is that it’s extremely unlikely to cause any harm so if people apply it or take it there is very little risk. Some people swear by it and for some people it does nothing. CBD does have some anti inflammatory properties and there are some studies but most claims are pretty overblown.

In this case it certainly doesn’t hurt to try in addition to asking the medical team for other options.

 

[Pope]

I have a torn meniscus in my right knee and the pain was so awful that I had to do the cortisone injection in the knee to find relief. The shot was very effective, but the pain relief is only temporary.

So while I was relatively pain free, I used that time to do some pretty rigorous physical therapy. More importantly, I also dropped 25 pounds, something which was long overdue.

That was three months ago and since that time I've been totally pain free. No more cortisone shots and no knee surgery on the horizon. My orthopedic doctor said that by losing the 25 pounds, I took 100 pounds of force off my knees and it made all the difference in the world.

I've lost a total of 31 pounds as of now, and I got 7 more pounds to go before I call it good. I'm never going back to my old weight!

 

[kcdc4isu]

I have personally gone through their program for my bad knees. It took 7 months and a very large amount of money ( because at that time no insurance covered the treatment) it it did not do anything to help. Unless you have very minor pain and have x-rays or MRI's showing no major damage I would not recommend them. The ads sound great but in my case their treatments failed. I would be very wary of them.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I have a torn meniscus in my right knee and the pain was so awful that I had to do the cortisone injection in the knee to find relief. The shot was very effective, but the pain relief is only temporary.

So while I was relatively pain free, I used that time to do some pretty rigorous physical therapy. More importantly, I also dropped 25 pounds, something which was long overdue.

That was three months ago and since that time I've been totally pain free. No more cortisone shots and no knee surgery on the horizon. My orthopedic doctor said that by losing the 25 pounds, I took 100 pounds of force off my knees and it made all the difference in the world.

I've lost a total of 31 pounds as of now, and I got 7 more pounds to go before I call it good. I'm never going back to my old weight!

Absolutely love this an the dedication it took.

Just for the OP (probably already aware) but I wouldn’t recommend that kind of weight loss for someone in their mid 80’s unless carefully supervised by a medical team and with their guidance. For younger individuals this is a brilliant idea and can obviously help prevent future issues

 

[GBlade]

I know 2 people that have had PRP in their knee with success and 1 person that has it in their hip that made it worse. It really depends what your working with. If he's already bone on bone it's not going to regrow cartilage that isn't there. I'd find a different drs opinion on knee replacement. My uncle is 82 with heart problems and thinners and is getting one.