demoncore1031
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15th ranked classes will do the trick at PSU. The Big 10 isn't the SEC. They have Ohio State, Michigan and Indiana and that's about it. And who knows if Indiana will even be good this year.
Serious Question: How does ISUs football recruiting look so far?
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Agreed and if Campbell can do what Franklin could not, beat the top ranked teams they are playing, you would have to believe that instead of losing four and five star recruits to those teams at least a few of them will chose PSU because they are beating those teams on the field.
demoncore1031
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I personally think this class is very similar to the typical Matt class. ISU is not getting 4 and 5 star guys. We need to get the right 3 star guys. Matt won with culture. I honestly think Jimmy and staff may be better on game day. Time will tell. QB play is going to be critical. That one position saw the biggest improvement under Matt. Before Matt we rarely had an advantage at QB. Brock changed that.
I'm not convinced Matt is a good enough in game coach, Mouser included, to win those big time games consistently.
I'll be curious to see.
Agreed, will be interesting to see his teams without the advantage Heacock gave him
Raynor is a good stop gap while they figure out if Moberly is their guy for the 2 years after. It’ll be their highschool recruiting at the position to watch moving forward, but if they don’t like what they see out of Moberly in practices their timeline gets accelerated.
Matt has never gotten over the hump since he left Mount Union. He's a good coach but IDK if he's a great coach.
He did at ISU, why would he stop doing it at PSU when he has better talent available to him?
I think Campbell really grew a lot over his time at ISU, like most coaches he made mistakes, no full time special teams coach is a perfect example. But he finally came around to understanding the importance of that phase of the game. He was a very young and inexperienced head coach when he came to ISU and was learning on the job of how to be a P4 head coach. But he did learn those lessons and we had the best decade ISU has ever experienced. He made mistakes but also corrected those mistakes, and should be an even better coach at PSU with the talent around him.
He never won a championship. Even with the most talented roster in program history. And before you say that's unrealistic standards, they were set by him.
He had the team in two championship games, something the university had never done. One time they were the #1 seed in the game I believe. Before championship games were played, that would have counted for winning the league.
Either way he is not our problem now, but to think he is going to go to PSU and fall on his face is silly. He will accomplish more than Franklin did, and they kept him around to a decade. Lets say he never wins a championship and they fire him after a decade, he goes back to a job like Franklin took at V Tech, and finishes out his career.
He couldn't do it at Toledo either. Lost to 'row your boat'. I'm just pointing out the history. He's never won the big game respective to his team.
He was frustrating to watch at times, but there is no doubt he left the program in a much better position than what it has even been, at least relevant wise. My only complaint was him taking most of the talent on the team with him to PSU. ISU was shaping up for a year we could contend for the title and the playoff and now we will struggle to be .500.
Why should that surprise you? He's going to give himself the best possible opportunity to succeed at Penn State and that means going this year instead of the next. To me I'm really not all that sore about it. I just think he handled it really poorly. Part of that is probably decisions made by Jamie, so I guess I should give him a little slack in that regard.
I didn't say it surprised me, just that was my biggest complaint. I don't begrudge anyone for taking a better job, more money and a chance to win at a higher level. But we have a system that is broken overall, and needs to be fixed.
Can you imagine if professional leagues allowed coaches to leave and take the players they wanted with them even though they are under contract to their current team?
I don't think we should really be worried about high school recruiting for a few years. Hopefully we get some kids to develop but I think this staff will use the portal to fill those gaps more than the last staff. CMC liked to build through the program and take chances on kids he knew over bringing in new guys. Out of necessity, this staff has gotten very comfortable using the portal. CMC just never really had to.
Portal season will be a much bigger deal. It wouldn't surprise me to see a lot of turnover from the players we brought in through the portal last year. I expect a couple of years of sifting out the kids that can't hack it at this level. It'll be nothing like this year but bigger portal classes than we are used to for FB.
Portal season will be a much bigger deal. It wouldn't surprise me to see a lot of turnover from the players we brought in through the portal last year. I expect a couple of years of sifting out the kids that can't hack it at this level. It'll be nothing like this year but bigger portal classes than we are used to for FB.
