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2026-27 ISU Football offensive scheme?

clonedude

clonedude

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I've been trying to figure out what to expect to see on the field this fall from our offense scheme wise, and it's been difficult.

It seems like the overall general consensus is to expect to basically see a power running game... 3 yds and a cloud of dust... think Iowa's KF conservative offense. If that's the case, will we see Raynor under center almost exclusively or what? Because some have said that he will be under center. Would that also include multiple TE's... or I've also heard a fullback. Two WRs only?


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If you watch highlights of WSU last season, they were in shotgun nearly all the time it seemed, and I wouldn't say they looked like a power running game, but of course that was under a different OC, and this year we will have Roehl who does sound like he wants to be more of a very physical running game style. Does that mean Rogers does very little with the offense, and pretty much is hands off and allows his OC's to run whatever style they prefer?

I'm just confused what to expect? I don't feel like putting Raynor under center would be to his strength... or to Flores or Moberly's strength's either, but what do I know. I do think with ISU being the northern most program in the conference, it is smart to build this offense starting with the OL and running game... there is a lot of OL talent in the upper midwest versus fast athletic skill players... but I'm not sure our QB's are your typical under center "pro style QBs", whatever that means.

I've always agreed with CW that as an offense, you MUST make the defense defend the entire length and width of the field, and I worry if you think you're just going to line up and run it against teams that will put 7-8 defenders in the box... you HAVE to have something else you can turn to stretch the defense out. I understand we aren't going to run it 90% of the time, but do you think this staff will have some really exciting wrinkles to throw in to keep defenses honest? Should we expect to see good utilization of a screen game to destroy blitzes, etc?

Just wondering if anyone has any clues as to what we should expect to see. I guess mostly will Raynor really be under center the majority of the time? Will we be run/pass like 70/30 or more like 50/50? Fullback? Those kinds of things. Thanks
 
When Roehl was OC at NDSU, they ran the ball between 230-280 yards a game and never averaged more than 200 yards passing in a season. I could see some mucked up games this fall with 17-14 final scores.
 
Was a Raynor a speed option qb or more of a scrambler? I do not see us going full-Ferentz, but suspect we lean more towards the power run heavy pro-style. Going forward, is the ideal QB a Carson Wentz type or even a Mark Gronowski?
 
Everyone wants to run the ball. The team that most effectively runs the ball wins most games. But very few teams can just line up and run the ball against quality opponents. I really expect us to be in the gun most of the time because that provides the most options, especially with a scrambling QB. The goal is always to force the opponent to defend as much of the field as possible. It would be nice to go under center in short yardage situations.
 
Honestly after doing exactly what @nhclone recommended, im actually way more excited about our offense than i was before.

Its basically that offense with better athletes, IMO
 
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This is of limited practical use of course, but going back to the spring game, Raynor was mostly in shotgun and behaved like a scrambler/creator for mostly short passing. He worked pretty well within those confines; it appeared arm strength and deep ball are not his high points, but he was quite good at diagnosing a coverage and putting a ball into a mark over short to mid range. Not much under-center action was shown, but maybe that will change come September. My concern with a full-on rushing attack would be whether or not we have the OL and RB/FB guys to make it actually work this season, on the back of basically a complete rebuild. We don't know until we see it on the field. If we lose lots of games coming up, my guess would be that it's because we didn't score enough offensively, versus we gave up too much defensively.

I don't read too much into what was done at WSU since Rogers left most of that offensive staff behind and built new, while bringing a lot of his D staff with. That tells me he was happy with one unit and not the other. That said, my guess from his and the coordinators' commentaries thus far is that he personally is pretty hands-off with how the schemes are run, instead letting the coords' drive. We do know that Rhoel is a pretty big fan of power run and physical game, and he like to involve TEs as well. I'm expecting less WR involvement, similar TE to before (possibly more in the run/blocking game versus passing), and a lot more HB/FB gameplay and rotation.
 
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clonedude said:
I would love this! But sprinkle in some play action bombs once in a while to keep the defense honest.
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Just as a reminder he was the OC at NDSU when Trey Lance threw for like 2800 yards in a season and they won the FCS national title
He’s a run first OC but it’s not like he’s incapable of calling pass plays
 
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This is of limited practical use of course, but going back to the spring game, Raynor was mostly in shotgun and behaved like a scrambler/creator for mostly short passing. He worked pretty well within those confines; it appeared arm strength and deep ball are not his high points, but he was quite good at diagnosing a coverage and putting a ball into a mark over short to mid range. Not much under-center action was shown, but maybe that will change come September. My concern with a full-on rushing attack would be whether or not we have the OL and RB/FB guys to make it actually work this season, on the back of basically a complete rebuild. We don't know until we see it on the field. If we lose lots of games coming up, my guess would be that it's because we didn't score enough offensively, versus we gave up too much defensively.

I don't read too much into what was done at WSU since Rogers left most of that offensive staff behind and built new, while bringing a lot of his D staff with. That tells me he was happy with one unit and not the other. That said, my guess from his and the coordinators' commentaries thus far is that he personally is pretty hands-off with how the schemes are run, instead letting the coords' drive. We do know that Rhoel is a pretty big fan of power run and physical game, and he like to involve TEs as well. I'm expecting less WR involvement, similar TE to before (possibly more in the run/blocking game versus passing), and a lot more HB/FB gameplay and rotation.
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Thanks…. good info! Glad to hear Raynor was mostly in shotgun in the spring showcase.
 
clonedude said:
Thanks…. good info! Glad to hear Raynor was mostly in shotgun in the spring showcase.
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Keep in mind that was just a snapshot in time, early on. That could be changing today as we speak. If they want to go to a more aggressive rush attack that doesn't rely on shotgun running, there's many ways to do that -- they could mix in bigger packages from pistol forms, go singleback style under center (that would be very Iowa-like), mix in I-form and its offshoots...there's many ways to get similar results, but implementing major offense overhauls like that takes a long time. I want to think the overall scheme of "rushing mixed with primarily short passing and some mix of RPO/PA, death by a thousand cuts" type of offense is ahead of us, but it could come out in many, many different forms. All depends on what your personnel executes the best.
 
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