The Crash on Netflix

We watched it Friday, crazy story. I was surprised they decided against a jury trial, figured it'd be easier to plant reasonable doubt seeds in sympathetic jurors than a judge, but maybe not.
My brother in law is a cop. He and my sister watched it over the weekend and he said 'they chose the bench trial because they knew her reputation in the community was trash. Her defense team knew a seasoned judge would tune out the public outrage, ignore the bad press, and just stick strictly to the hard forensic and black box data.' Pretty fair.
 
Yeah her friend basically sunk herself for no reason. She would not talk to the prosecutor but had no problem getting paid by Netflix. Heard she basically had to take down all of her social media because she was getting raked so bad. Which btw she deserved to be raked. Let me stand up for a girl I won't hang out with again even though she is really guilty seems like a bad move. Just stfu and get new friends girl.
lol totally agree. i was side-eyeing that friend that was interviewed the whole time. she was very sus. not that she was in the know of the crime, just a shady character/person in general.
 
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My brother in law is a cop. He and my sister watched it over the weekend and he said 'they chose the bench trial because they knew her reputation in the community was trash. Her defense team knew a seasoned judge would tune out the public outrage, ignore the bad press, and just stick strictly to the hard forensic and black box data.' Pretty fair.

Thats interesting. The one thing that really swayed it for me was the way the boyfriend was all calm in the apartment recording her throw a fit saying she was going to break down the door and such. Until then they kind of played her up as this sweet little innocent girl. I still thought she was guilty before but I also figured at that point that she can fly off the handle really easy.
 
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My brother in law is a cop. He and my sister watched it over the weekend and he said 'they chose the bench trial because they knew her reputation in the community was trash. Her defense team knew a seasoned judge would tune out the public outrage, ignore the bad press, and just stick strictly to the hard forensic and black box data.' Pretty fair.
Finally watched it. Not the outcome I expected.

I agree with the earlier post about choosing the bench trial. I get what you're saying about her having a trash reputation in the community and the judge tuning all of that out, but man it seems like the odds of getting at least 1 complete dipsh*t on that jury who would hold out had to be pretty good. The evidence against her was pretty compelling.
 
they're the type of parents that want to be friends with their kids, not parents. just clueless.
Way way back when I was in HS I worked at a grocery store. One day I was working there was a mom, dad, and what looked like a 5 year old boy walking down the aisle I was stocking in. The kid was throwing a complete tantrum as they approached where I was working. The dad was silent, the mom was pleading with the kid asking him what he wanted. The kid said he wanted to go home. The mom then told the dad ok we'd better leave and go home. I was just looking at them, she then looked at me and said "I don't make him do anything he doesn't want to do."

I was stunned, which is why I remember it so clearly 35+ years later. I just thought, wow, that kid is going to have problems.

These parents reminded me of that mom.
 
Way way back when I was in HS I worked at a grocery store. One day I was working there was a mom, dad, and what looked like a 5 year old boy walking down the aisle I was stocking in. The kid was throwing a complete tantrum as they approached where I was working. The dad was silent, the mom was pleading with the kid asking him what he wanted. The kid said he wanted to go home. The mom then told the dad ok we'd better leave and go home. I was just looking at them, she then looked at me and said "I don't make him do anything he doesn't want to do."

I was stunned, which is why I remember it so clearly 35+ years later. I just thought, wow, that kid is going to have problems.

These parents reminded me of that mom.
I have an aunt and uncle who were just like those parents. My aunt/uncle never in my life growing up with my cousins I was close with said no to the kids. Ever. About anything. And if the kids got in trouble at school or something the aunt/uncle just shrugged their shoulders and were like 'well, we told them not to do that'.

It was heartbreaking later when my and my siblings were in our 20s and 30s and one of our cousins that was a child of that aunt/uncle said to me and my sister 'you know how i knew your parents loved you growing up? you had consequences to your actions'.
 
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I have an aunt and uncle who were just like those parents. My aunt/uncle never in my life growing up with my cousins I was close with said no to the kids. Ever. About anything. And if the kids got in trouble at school or something the aunt/uncle just shrugged their shoulders and were like 'well, we told them not to do that'.

It was heartbreaking later when my and my siblings were in our 20s and 30s and one of our cousins that was a child of that aunt/uncle said to me and my sister 'you know how i knew your parents loved you growing up? you had consequences to your actions'.
It's the easy way out. And it's just lazy, irresponsible parenting. I still remember the first time one of our daughters told us "I hate you!" She was in 6th grade, didn't go to school that day because she said she wasn't feeling well. We had our suspicions about how sick she really was, but it was the first time that year she'd stayed home sick from school, so we let her. Then later in the day when school was out one of her friends was having a pool party and she wanted to go. We told her absolutely not, if you were too sick for school today, you're too sick for a pool party. She of course threw a fit about it, all of her friends were going to be there, and that's when it came... "I HATE YOU!" before running back up to her room. Obviously it doesn't feel great hearing your kid say that, but it would've been ridiculous of us to let her go. We all laugh about it today.
 
We watched the Killer Cases episode (S4Ep12) on Hulu about this case last night. Some interesting things left out of the Netflix doc, especially where a detective goes to talk to her at the hospital.

It's very clear that the family of the girl had something to do with the Netflix one as they weren't interviewed at all for that one and were trying to improve their image and have their daughter plead her "innocence" to the public.
 
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The new documentary movie that dropped on Netflix today, The Crash, is nightmare fuel. A car carrying three teens slams into a brick wall at 100+ mph with zero braking, looking like a horrific accident. But investigators dig into the wreckage and a toxic, volatile relationship, and uncover a more sinister truth.

Several aspects of this are deeply disturbing. Beyond the physical brutality, the doc does a massive dive into the toxic social media culture surrounding the trial and the baffling, remorseless behavior of the family. It’s dark, frustrating, and incredibly tragic.


They covered this case on Court Cam.
 
There's also a youtube channel Dr. Insanity that does deep dives on all these crazy crimes/trials.

Of course the algorithm takes over so that's your entire youtube if you watch one of them lol.
 
We watched the Killer Cases episode (S4Ep12) on Hulu about this case last night. Some interesting things left out of the Netflix doc, especially where a detective goes to talk to her at the hospital.

It's very clear that the family of the girl had something to do with the Netflix one as they weren't interviewed at all for that one and were trying to improve their image and have their daughter plead her "innocence" to the public.
Just like the unknown sender doc they came out the other side looking worse. I wonder if they got to see the doc before it was released and thought that they made a good case?
 
She's nuts and her family is nuts. Going with a bench trial was nuts. Somewhat amazed with the condition that the car was in, crumple zones sure do work for a 100-to-0 impact. That's why she lived...I doubt she intended to live through it. Amazing that the vehicle didn't go up in flames somehow from a front impact that way also.

I got tripped up by one piece of prosceution evidence though: the brake thing from the recorder. A brake pedal isn't an On/Off item, it's a range of inputs just like the accelerator is, which was also shown. It looked like the evidence they presented was actually the status of the parking brake, which would only be on or off. If it isn't, that's a really odd way to express brake pedal input (it doesn't matter at all in this scenario, it's pretty obvious this was intentional one way or another, but just something I thought was interesting).
 
We watched the Killer Cases episode (S4Ep12) on Hulu about this case last night. Some interesting things left out of the Netflix doc, especially where a detective goes to talk to her at the hospital.

It's very clear that the family of the girl had something to do with the Netflix one as they weren't interviewed at all for that one and were trying to improve their image and have their daughter plead her "innocence" to the public.
Yeah I'm starting to tire of all of the true crime docs. It's become so obvious that they're produced by people looking to win a PR battle. It's less about unspooling a mystery, and more about gaining sympathy or favor from the viewer.
 
She's nuts and her family is nuts. Going with a bench trial was nuts. Somewhat amazed with the condition that the car was in, crumple zones sure do work for a 100-to-0 impact. That's why she lived...I doubt she intended to live through it. Amazing that the vehicle didn't go up in flames somehow from a front impact that way also.

I got tripped up by one piece of prosceution evidence though: the brake thing from the recorder. A brake pedal isn't an On/Off item, it's a range of inputs just like the accelerator is, which was also shown. It looked like the evidence they presented was actually the status of the parking brake, which would only be on or off. If it isn't, that's a really odd way to express brake pedal input (it doesn't matter at all in this scenario, it's pretty obvious this was intentional one way or another, but just something I thought was interesting).
I think hitting the sign the way she did turned the car just enough to direct the impact to the front right of the vehicle. Had she managed to hit the building head on, who knows if she survives.
 
I think hitting the sign the way she did turned the car just enough to direct the impact to the front right of the vehicle. Had she managed to hit the building head on, who knows if she survives.
I kinda thought that too, but it seems pretty unlikely that this first sign impact was actually intentional the way it went down. It would take some impressive driving precision at 100 MPH to perfectly clip that the way she did without causing some sort of other incident (getting crushed into the sign instead, flipping the car, veering it completely onto a different route, etc). If she really did plan the clip and managed it to still go through it and on a straight path, consider me highly impressed she's able to do that at night at 100. If not intentional, that's some insanely dumb luck that happened to go her maybe...sort of, I guess.
 
I kinda thought that too, but it seems pretty unlikely that this first sign impact was actually intentional the way it went down. It would take some impressive driving precision at 100 MPH to perfectly clip that the way she did without causing some sort of other incident (getting crushed into the sign instead, flipping the car, veering it completely onto a different route, etc). If she really did plan the clip and managed it to still go through it and on a straight path, consider me highly impressed she's able to do that at night at 100. If not intentional, that's some insanely dumb luck that happened to go her maybe...sort of, I guess.
Yeah, I wasn't implying she hit the sign on purpose. As it was, based on the road layout, she had to angle to the right to miss some trees to hit the building and probably thought she could miss the sign too but failed to do so at those speeds.
 
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