Chris is a good guy. And clearly he's done just fine as a coach. I'd be OK with him coming back to ISU.
Denae Fritz transferring
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Chris is a good guy. And clearly he's done just fine as a coach. I'd be OK with him coming back to ISU.
Not shocked in the least about this one. She was done it was obvious in every interview. The only thing that surprises me is that she was not the first one out the door.
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https://www.knoxnews.com/story/spor...sfer-portal-needs-this-offseason/70056827007/
Kellie Harper was very successful with the transfer portal last year. This article suggests the Lady Vols should be looking for versatile guards to add to their roster.
Kellie Harper was very successful with the transfer portal last year. This article suggests the Lady Vols should be looking for versatile guards to add to their roster.
I feel like I would have excelled at more dribbling because my four brothers sometimes had to resort to asking me to play in their games on the blacktop at school, my sister would never do it. I think defending would be my real downfall. And rebounding. At least unlike some schools we played, we didn’t have dorky skirts for uniforms. We did have a freshman coach who would get mad over something stupid and make us run up and down bleachers, which always scared me. One of my friends was good at strategically “losing” a contact to stop that madness.You gotta dribble more than twice you know.
So if my math is correct I think that makes 11 transfers in 3 years.
In terms of recruit retention:
2022-2023 class was Dawkins, who I'd be surprised if she's here all 4 years but who knows.
2021-2022 class was Fritz and Maggie Vick, both gone
2020-2021 class was Feuerbach, Ryan, Zingaro, Joens, Donarski, 3 out of 5 gone.
2019-2020 class was MEM and Gabby McBride. McBride left, MEM played 4 years but left still having eligibility.
2018-2019 class was Maddie Fredrick, Ashley Joens and Morgan Kane. All 3 completed their 4 years, but 2 left still having eligibility.
So out of 12 recruits over the last 4 years, 3 remain actively playing, 4 completed their 4 years, but only 1 (Joens) exhausted all of her eligibility without transferring. I think you can safely say Ryan will be added to that list and who knows on Zingaro and Dawkins. So we could wind up with 2-4 of 13 of our high school recruits over the last 4 years having not transferred.
In terms of recruit retention:
2022-2023 class was Dawkins, who I'd be surprised if she's here all 4 years but who knows.
2021-2022 class was Fritz and Maggie Vick, both gone
2020-2021 class was Feuerbach, Ryan, Zingaro, Joens, Donarski, 3 out of 5 gone.
2019-2020 class was MEM and Gabby McBride. McBride left, MEM played 4 years but left still having eligibility.
2018-2019 class was Maddie Fredrick, Ashley Joens and Morgan Kane. All 3 completed their 4 years, but 2 left still having eligibility.
So out of 12 recruits over the last 4 years, 3 remain actively playing, 4 completed their 4 years, but only 1 (Joens) exhausted all of her eligibility without transferring. I think you can safely say Ryan will be added to that list and who knows on Zingaro and Dawkins. So we could wind up with 2-4 of 13 of our high school recruits over the last 4 years having not transferred.
People also stay connected unless there are problems.
I was totally in agreement with you - but now I wonder a little. I see Lexi is rated #2 of all the portal players. Maybe she is tired of hearing v C lark gets $1M+
The three that left after completing their four years are no different then grad-transfers prior to the new transfer rules. They completed their degrees and want to potentially play somewhere else and continue their education. So I am not really seeing how that is a negative to the program.
For anyone leaving the program as an undergrad, this is just the world we live in. Fans think there has to be program problem when people are transferring away, but I would guess without doing a lot of research that most every high-major program, both men's and women's, have a least one or two players transfer out each year.
Just because a fan thinks that player will be a great piece to their team's success going forward doesn't mean that player has to stay at that program.
As a long time season ticket holder and supporter, I'd like to think this. However, we've not lost 1 or 2, we've lost 5, 2 of which were starters and foundation pieces. This is not the "Iowa State Way."
It's not as troubling as Feuerbach, Donarski or Fritz leaving, but they still have remaining eligibility and are choosing to play elsewhere. Definitely more tolerable, but when taking within the context of what's going on I'd consider it somewhat troubling.
Feuerbach's decision to leave was pretty well documented. She came to Iowa State because it was a good program and she grew up in an Iowa State household. But decided after being here that she might want to go someplace else. Not that much different then someone always wanting to visit, say New York City because they hear how great it was, and then after visiting deciding it wasn't for them so they won't visit again.
We don't know anything about Donarski and Fritz (at least publicly), but they can both have reasons to leave that have to do with not feeling that this was the best place for them without it meaning that Iowa State has a systemic problem that can only be solved by firing everyone and starting over.
Quick question - o/u on how many of the incoming recruits would ask out of their LOI if the most/all of staff was gone?
Until we hear both players say NIL had nothing to do with it, it only makes sense to wonder how much it may have played at part. Let’s wait to see where they end up.
? In the post game interviews I guess I never noticed anything.
When they talked to her about going home to Tenn she could not have looked more far away and get me out of this interview because Im not going to be here much longer anyway. I knew from that moment it was a matter time before we heard she is out. Lexi total surprise-
I don't pretend to know enough to reach the conclusion that people should be fired. But at a minimum, it ought to cause some real soul-searching about what's going on in the program. But if last night's statement, or whatever that was, is any indication you won't get even that. Just defiance.
If these women were ONLY basketball players then that argument might hold significance.
But I don't believe ANY of the women, who left Iowa State with eligibility remaining, had professional basketball aspirations. So deciding to move on from Iowa State after they graduated seems like a natural progression in life.
From my experience, its a preferred approach to acquire a masters degree at a difference school than the one attended as an undergrad. Even from a non-academic standpoint, in my early 20's I wanted to explore the bigger world beyond Iowa State and the state of Iowa. So in the cases of Wise, Frederick, Espenmiller-McGraw, Kane obtaining their Masters Education elsewhere seems like a healthy approach to life (and even basketball).
Not going to put my head in the sand. Losing players like Kylie, Aubrey Joens, Lexi and Denae is concerning since they started or it was anticipated they would get significant minutes. Even though transfers are expected in todays era of college sports. I would hope that Jamie Pollard has a Senior Administrator or Compliance Staff member meet with all student-athletes who leave to determine if there are any issues within a team.
Is it really poaching?
I wouldn't think other teams players are cold calling our girls. But I do imagine our girls are friends with players at other schools. I'd imagine they talk and probably try and figure out if the things they are troubled by here exist at other schools. And once word is out they are unhappy I'd imagine then some of the recruiting starts.
People also transfer because the coach is a d!ck.
