Nebraska sux

[HFCS]

Omaha sports radio is comedy f*cking gold. Delusional is the kindest word for UNL fans...they really think Matt Campbell isn't good enough for Nebraska.

Nebraska fan, you are a sh*tty version of Iowa and that's not going to change. You are a middling B1G West program and you need to pray that the B1G West continues to exist to have a chance to sniff a B1G CCG.

And Trev Alberts molests collies.

If new big ten goes to no divisions and 1 vs 2 title game Nebraska will never sniff that game. Even Wisc and Iowa will need a season of a lifetime and they are vastly better programs.

Even with the previous 14 team mix that 1 vs 2 would’ve been among eastern teams pretty much every year other than maybe a rare soft schedule for Iowa/Wisc that could still happen but less likely than when playing 6 big ten west every year.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Campbell has already made a perennial loser into a winner.

Not sure he wants to do it again at Nebraska in front of mouth breathers with pitch forks.

 

[JUKEBOX]

According to the 247 latest rankings (which probably should be taken with a grain of salt), Iowa State has a higher-ranked class coming in than Nebraska.

In order for Nebraska to win regularly (i.e. 8-9 wins/yr), they need to recruit at a high level and have a good gameday coach. Those coaches don't grow on trees, and when Nebraska gets them, they seem to fire them anyway.

For Nebraska to be a dynasty again, they need a one in every 20-30 years coach and a competent athletic department. However I don't think Nebraska would have any better chance of landing that coach than say Iowa State. Since we face similar challenges, strategies implemented would work in both locations. Iowa State probably has a better run athletic department at the moment and doesn't fire people for no reason too.

Old strategies will not work at Nebraska, so when there's a misalignment on fan expectations and the reality of their modern program, it makes that job undesirable and difficult.

 

[stewart092284]

I think they'll contact him - they'd be dumb not to.

Do I think he'd leave? No. But at the same time as much as I enjoy watching Nebraska be bad - its not a horrible job. But neither is Iowa State anymore so I don't think he'd leave.

 

[JUKEBOX]

I think they'll contact him - they'd be dumb not to.

Do I think he'd leave? No. But at the same time as much as I enjoy watching Nebraska be bad - its not a horrible job. But neither is Iowa State anymore so I don't think he'd leave.

It's really not that different than Iowa State imo at the moment probably except:

1. There's no stability and seems to be worse-run AD
2. Fan expectations are unrealistic
3. Probably more meddling from boosters in the program
4. Probably harder to out-recruit peers since they are geographically similar. Iowa State has a little more uniqueness in the current Big 12.

Over time, I could see some of those downsides for Nebraska correcting (after they stink for a while). Then they could have a nice 8/9-win program with an outside chance to compete for the B1G West every couple years.

There's also a possibility that they become a doormat for like 20 years lol

 

[stewart092284]

It's really not that different than Iowa State imo at the moment probably except:

1. There's no stability and seems to be worse-run AD
2. Fan expectations are unrealistic
3. Probably more meddling from boosters in the program
4. Probably harder to out-recruit peers since they are geographically similar. Iowa State has a little more uniqueness in the current Big 12.

Over time, I could see some of those downsides for Nebraska correcting (after they stink for a while). Then they could have a nice 8/9-win program with an outside chance to compete for the B1G West every couple years.

There's also a possibility that they become a doormat for like 20 years lol

True but on 4 - I think they can out-recruit most teams in the Big 10 west. That 's not saying a lot but still.

I agree, I think Iowa State is closing or has closed the door on the non-elite level programs. But it all comes down to what might get offered and what might a coach be looking for. That's why Campbell I don't think is going to leave anytime soon.

My only point was that if you're looking to build a program in an image I think Nebraska fans might like - then they'd be dumb to not contact him as someone like him is likely about the perfect coach for that program. I just don't think our HC would leave.

 

[exCyDing]

It's really not that different than Iowa State imo at the moment probably except:

1. There's no stability and seems to be worse-run AD
2. Fan expectations are unrealistic
3. Probably more meddling from boosters in the program
4. Probably harder to out-recruit peers since they are geographically similar. Iowa State has a little more uniqueness in the current Big 12.

Over time, I could see some of those downsides for Nebraska correcting (after they stink for a while). Then they could have a nice 8/9-win program with an outside chance to compete for the B1G West every couple years.

There's also a possibility that they become a doormat for like 20 years lol

Problem is, Nebraska fans won’t settle for 8-9 wins most years, with a few falling below that and a few “special” years here and there. They’ll push the coach out for not getting them to the next level pretty quick.

 

[JUKEBOX]

True but on 4 - I think they can out-recruit most teams in the Big 10 west. That 's not saying a lot but still.

I agree, I think Iowa State is closing or has closed the door on the non-elite level programs. But it all comes down to what might get offered and what might a coach be looking for. That's why Campbell I don't think is going to leave anytime soon.

My only point was that if you're looking to build a program in an image I think Nebraska fans might like - then they'd be dumb to not contact him as someone like him is likely about the perfect coach for that program. I just don't think our HC would leave.

I think they should be happy if they got a Campbell-like coach, but I agree that I don't think there's a compelling reason by a coach like Campbell to leave for Nebraska.

And probably Nebraska would fire a decent coach that went 7-6 or something when the reality is that's definitely not the floor at Nebraska.

 

[HFCS]

According to the 247 latest rankings (which probably should be taken with a grain of salt), Iowa State has a higher-ranked class coming in than Nebraska.

In order for Nebraska to win regularly (i.e. 8-9 wins/yr), they need to recruit at a high level and have a good gameday coach. Those coaches don't grow on trees, and when Nebraska gets them, they seem to fire them anyway.

For Nebraska to be a dynasty again, they need a one in every 20-30 years coach and a competent athletic department. However I don't think Nebraska would have any better chance of landing that coach than say Iowa State. Since we face similar challenges, strategies implemented would work in both locations. Iowa State probably has a better run athletic department at the moment and doesn't fire people for no reason too.

Old strategies will not work at Nebraska, so when there's a misalignment on fan expectations and the reality of their modern program, it makes that job undesirable and difficult.

A lot of Nebraska fans think Campbell wouldn’t be good enough anyway because he can’t recruit. Even if we indulge this fantasy, most Sker fans would be outraged at the hire.

They expect Alabama’s current level of recruiting on day one and are too blind to see Campbell is doing great recruiting for a program like ISU or Nebraska. Frost’s main problem isn’t recruiting.

 

[Lineup]

Fuskers are the most delusional people on the planet

 

[inCyteful]

If new big ten goes to no divisions and 1 vs 2 title game Nebraska will never sniff that game. Even Wisc and Iowa will need a season of a lifetime and they are vastly better programs.

Even with the previous 14 team mix that 1 vs 2 would’ve been among eastern teams pretty much every year other than maybe a rare soft schedule for Iowa/Wisc that could still happen but less likely than when playing 6 big ten west every year.

They won't sniff it in current setup. The first team they have to move ahead of is NW and they just got punked by them in a year where they should have made a big move. kNu should shoot for staying out of bottom of B1G West for now and that is a stretch for them..

 

[LarryISU]

NU has a lot of good recruits/players, so they actually could still win several games this year. It is poor coaching, poor player development that holds them back. Frost is a terrible HC. After the Northwestern loss, he threw his new OC under the bus. Suggested that this is the B1G, (i.e. not the ACC where his OC came from) and the playcalling needed more "imagination." Frost said that in the press conference. Just no sense of how to handle things. A good head coach probably gives critical thoughts to his coaches, but not in front of a microphone!!!

 

[Jeffrey Scott]

Call Campbell and ask him if he has a brother. Or, if there is someone he knows with his level of football talent, skill and loyalty who might work. Keep that guy out of the Big 12 and make NU play Iowa every Thanksgiving weekend.

 

[clonehome]

They’re lucky to get 9 wins in two years.

It’s now a bottom half P2 job. Maybe the worst location in all the P2, recruiting off history alone is catching a falling knife.

Washington St and Oregon St are in the mix for worst location, but the liability in Nebraska’s location cannot be overstated. Coaches in basketball and football talk about the 5 hour radius for recruiting. Well that mostly gets Nebraska tumbleweed. Kansas City and the western half of Iowa (where they are struggling against the 2 instate schools) are about it. Compare that to ISU - KC, Minneapolis, Milwaukee and much of Wisconsin, Chicago and much of Ilinois, call St Louis close enough. Nebraska looks more like the Dakota schools than anyone else in the B1G.

 

[JUKEBOX]

A lot of Nebraska fans think Campbell wouldn’t be good enough anyway because he can’t recruit. Even if we indulge this fantasy, most Sker fans would be outraged at the hire.

They expect Alabama’s current level of recruiting on day one and are too blind to see Campbell is doing great recruiting for a program like ISU or Nebraska. Frost’s main problem isn’t recruiting.

Yeah really their recruiting is not that bad, and if Frost was a good coach, they are probably at that 8/9 average win level.

I think Nebraska has an outside-risk for getting in financial trouble with coaches by making a few bad hires and then next thing you know they turn into KU. If they lose momentum on recruiting, these 4-7 teams by Frost turn into 1-10 seasons if they're stuck with a bad coach. I think this same kind of thing could probably happen easily in the post-Ferentz era for Iowa too.

 

[inCyteful]

Yeah really their recruiting is not that bad, and if Frost was a good coach, they are probably at that 8/9 average win level.

I think Nebraska has an outside-risk for getting in financial trouble with coaches by making a few bad hires and then next thing you know they turn into KU. If they lose momentum on recruiting, these 4-7 teams by Frost turn into 1-10 seasons if they're stuck with a bad coach. I think this same kind of thing could probably happen easily in the post-Ferentz era for Iowa too.

If Frost was an average coach they would have beaten NW.

If their recruiting was above average they would have beaten NW.

Neither condition exists.

 

[nfrine]

I really think Brian Ferentz will be the next Nebby coach...he has the pedigree.

 

[JUKEBOX]

If Frost was an average coach they would have beaten NW.

If their recruiting was above average they would have beaten NW.

Neither condition exists.

I haven't watched enough Nebraska football to give definitive answers for their recruiting, but Nebraska looked like a more-talented team than Northwestern to me (at certain positions).

They didn't seem well conditioned though and fell apart later in the game.

 

[inCyteful]

I haven't watched enough Nebraska football to give definitive answers for their recruiting, but Nebraska looked like a more-talented team than Northwestern to me.

They didn't seem well conditioned though and fell apart later in the game.

In all seriousness, Nebraska looked like ISU when we would win 3-5 games. Serviceable players at most positions, a skilled player or two that stood out, average QB and not a lot of of depth. They'll win 3-5 games.

 

[Spam]

Agree that Brian Ferentz is going to end up at Nebraska. He is exactly the kind of coach they go after. He has everything they look for in their coaching searches.