It's a fascinating rivalry.
Also ironic that Wittingham was a star at BYU as a player and will die at Utah.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Also ironic that Wittingham was a star at BYU as a player and will die at Utah.
This will be the best rivalry in the conference and one of the best in the country if Utah comes to the B12.
Oregon and Clemson are very similar. National brands with smaller fanbases than actual bluebloods. They are worth less money than the Alabamas and Ohio States.
Oregon isn’t good enough for the B1G. The conference has ballooned its per school $$$ based on a few bluebloods.
Clemson and the SEC, potentially the same story.
Texas A&M has an enormous fanbase. Their addition made the SEC richer. Same with Texas after them. And each addition that makes a league richer raises the bar for any further additions beyond that.
Would not be at all surprised if Florida State and UNC are the only programs in the ACC that actually make the B1G/SEC more money. They might get to drag along a partner, like USC did with UCLA, but I doubt it will be a complete carve-up, just like how Stanford and Cal and Oregon and Washington aren’t going to the B1G.
To be fair Texas is a national but also in a huge state with huge media markets and tons of recruiting.
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I don’t think USC really gives a ****. They are flush. I don’t think an extra hour on a private jet is really that big of a deal when the payout is what is.
I'm sure a PAC with USC was always the preference, but that doesn't exist any more.
I think they are done for now and wait on ND a while longer. They can always add more Pac 12 teams later if they wanted.
I think Big 10 is holding out for ND and will wait to expand until ND to finally come to a decision that they have to join. That could be now, 2 years or 20. Eventually the B1G/SEC will figure out a way to limit ND ability to get to the playoffs (they already agreed they wouldn't get a bye in playoff expansion if independent).
As for USC partner rumor they don't want Oregon because the the Ducks recruit So Cal very well. They are boxing the Ducks out of their major recruiting base. There is a reason UCLA/USC were a pair and Wash/Oregon/Stanford wasn't considered as traveling partners.
Not without paying an obscene amount of money to cover the GOR agreements those teams will be locked into.
Ken Miller on KXNO was on earlier and he is now believing the PAC 12 and ACC are forming something and the the Big12 is going to be left out. Thoughts? Just because the Big12 isn’t publicly saying anything doesn’t mean nothing is in the works.
They might form something but whatever it is will just be temporary and it won't make either of those conferences more valuable than the Big 12.
Clemson's 10 win season in 2011 was their first since 1990. They went through a pretty long period of mediocrity there. Dabo turned things around but my suspicion is that their position is more tenuous than most believe. The SEC/Big10 teams are going to have a lot of money to throw at recruits that Clemson won't have. Combine that with Dabo's hesitations around the transfer portal and Clemson could find itself another also-ran.
FWIW, I lived in South Carolina for awhile and while I saw burnt orange everywhere a lot of that was bandwagon transplants from the north. If they start losing again things could go south quickly. The longer Clemson is out of "the game" (P2) the less valuable they'll become IMO.
I’m seriously not sure if these media people remember that the Big 12 already added 4 teams, no one besides Out is leaving, AND that USC and UCLA are 1000% going to the big 10 in a matter of months. It’s like none of this happened and it’s last summer again.
So sports talk radio in Salt Lake is saying that the 4 Corner schools have agreed in principle to join the B12. It could be simultaneously true that UW/OU/Cal and Stan (who believe themselves too good for Midwest schools) are trying to work a deal with the ACC
