Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Rods79]

Cal board seems to get it.

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If FOX is saying “no” to including UO and UW…I hope to hell Yormark is working Apple/Amazon/Google with the whole package. There should be no love lost with the PAC and FOX after they killed their conference…and this might be the last ship sailing for decent media returns if Big Tech really wants in.

 

[2speedy1]

No way the conference would take Oregon St. over Miami, when you already have a team in Florida, it makes sense to take the Miami market just for recruiting. They bring a lot more to the conference that Oregon St ever will.

Yeah, there are some things that definitely need moved around there but his overall idea seems plausible.

 

[Rods79]

I don’t buy it...too obvious. ND/Stanford and stay, or they go East.

 

[jakemcilroy]

That is the next logical step.

I used to think this as well but I’ve come around to the idea that the schools need to have some other schools that they can beat easily. Nobody wants to go 3-9. Hence, Vandy and NW are safe.

 

[cygrads]

I think you might need to take a look at a map. Half of the state is mountainous, and many of the ranges are spectacular.

My bad, that drive from Nebraska boarder seems to take forever.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Cal board seems to get it.

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If Fox is telling the B12 that Washington and Oregon off the table, what does that mean for the B12? Is Fox in the mix to bid for the league, then you have to listen to them as their second conference. Fox B10/B12 and ESPN SEC/ACC, then I could see letting those two schools going to the B10, but if they are not telling the league that we are their second league, then offer them an invite and see what they do. They will not accept, but they might.

 

[isucy86]

Keep in mind we are talking Stanford.

We Iowan's are a bit behind the times, we still grow our food. We don't manufacturer it in a lab.

 

[Kinch]

I used to think this as well but I’ve come around to the idea that the schools need to have some other schools that they can beat easily. Nobody wants to go 3-9. Hence, Vandy and NW are safe.

That is what Texas and Nebby are for. They are the Rutgers and Vandy of the new league.

 

[Cyforce]

My bad, that drive from Nebraska boarder seems to take forever.

Utah is way better you can see for 20 miles and there's no cars.

 

[BCClone]

Chuck neinas estimated a 20-30MM difference between the P2 and the big XII. Oh boy would I take that. That means 70-80 MM each. He saved our rears a couple times I hope he is right.

 

[SportsMan9000]

And to think we all thought this Texas and Oklahoma crap last year was crazy. It’s about to get fun

 

[2speedy1]

If Fox is telling the B12 that Washington and Oregon off the table, what does that mean for the B12? Is Fox in the mix to bid for the league, then you have to listen to them as their second conference. Fox B10/B12 and ESPN SEC/ACC, then I could see letting those two schools going to the B10, but if they are not telling the league that we are their second league, then offer them an invite and see what they do. They will not accept, but they might.

My guess is its more of a mutual agreement between everyone that those 2 are not doing anything until the B1G and ND makes a decision.

I dont know if it is set in stone so much that they are off the table for good, but they are off the table until the final decision is made within the B1G if ND comes do they still take 1 or both, or if ND doesnt come do they take them.

Just take our 4 schools now and drive the final nail in the coffin of the Pac, and if either of those dont make it to the B1G then you bring them in.

 

[MeanDean]

Assuming the reports of Big 12 meeting with Utah, ASU, UofA and Ralphie tomorrow I kind of expect some kind of news by late tomorrow afternoon.

 

[2speedy1]

And to think we all thought this Texas and Oklahoma crap last year was crazy. It’s about to get fun.

I am looking forward to some of these new road trips. I was never able to make a lot of them over the years and have just started to be in the position to be able to, so I am looking forward to catching some of these locations.

 

[MeanDean]

The wavering of BIG with Oregon and UDub is kind of an interesting thing.

Wondering what kind of offer the BigXII might make to them.

I think I'd come at them with a full member pay-out offer beginning their first year. BUT also lock them into a huge buy-out clause (or whatever the legal term is) for 10-15 years so if they get wandering eyes later on there's a big reason not to jump soon.

 

[isucy86]

So they think the Big XII will vote to merge with the PAC and exclude 3 of the 8 schools with voting rights.

If Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA leave is there a Pac12?

Is there a Pac12 GOR's beyond June 2024? If not, then every school is on their own to negotiate where they play football in fall 2024.

I read something last week that USC & UCLA had refused to extent their GOR. The fact that Oregon, Washington and Stanford are all talking to Big10, seems like every school is a free agent.

 

[Cyforce]

The wavering of BIG with Oregon and UDub is kind of an interesting thing.

Wondering what kind of offer the BigXII might make to them.

I think I'd come at them with a full member pay-out offer beginning their first year. BUT also lock them into a huge buy-out clause (or whatever the legal term is) for 10-15 years so if they get wandering eyes later on there's a big reason not to jump soon.

Not sure why we'd do that. We can't match the BiG and they can't do better if the BiG passes.

 

[Cyforce]

If Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA leave is there a Pac12?

Is there a Pac12 GOR's beyond June 2024? If not, then every school is on their own to negotiate where they play football in fall 2024.

I read something last week that USC & UCLA had refused to extent their GOR. The fact that Oregon, Washington and Stanford are all talking to Big10, seems like every school is a free agent.

Read what I responded to.

 

[MeanDean]

Not sure why we'd do that. We can't match the BiG and they can't do better if the BiG passes.

It's a good faith offer from us - "Yes we want you and we value you and are willing to pay."

But it demands their faithfulness in return.

 

[2speedy1]

If Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA leave is there a Pac12?

Is there a Pac12 GOR's beyond June 2024? If not, then every school is on their own to negotiate where they play football in fall 2024.

I read something last week that USC & UCLA had refused to extent their GOR. The fact that Oregon, Washington and Stanford are all talking to Big10, seems like every school is a free agent.

One could argue that if Cal, Oregon St and Wazzu, remain and they "Merge" with the MWC they might keep the Pac 12 name because it has more recognition/status than the MWC.

I believe the end of the GOR/Contract with the PAC 12 is July 31, 2024. Which is why USC/UCLA are joining the B1G, Aug 1, 2024.