I can think of $80 million reasons. How much would the PAC12 pay them more than the new BIG XII?
Going to the Sec you get 10-20 million or more extra per year. Not so with the PAC.
Big 12 Expansion (new thread)
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Going to the Sec you get 10-20 million or more extra per year. Not so with the PAC.
I still haven’t figured out how everyone is so sure about the tv dollars and playoff access for this new conference.
The pac may not be a strong football league, but they never faced being demoted to a lower standing conference, perception wise
But this just means we better jump on Boise state as quick as we can. The pac might take them from us.
That is the question...do we know the answer yet? All speculation until we have that question answered.
I like the NFL, and this isn't really your point. But college football is instantly better than the NFL as a fan because the games are played on Saturday. The NFL is a couch fan league. It's a WWE crowd. The connection between the fans and the team is superficial and forced. The games are great. The players are unbelievable, but I love the college football experience more than anything.
If we're going to add 4 someday I know how pods work, (except how to pick the championship game players) but if we go to 20 or 24 how do those pods work?
Texas has refused to play aTm since Aggie went to the SEC. One basketball game a year gets lost in the balance sheet quickly.
It’s personal connections to the team you root for that make college football, college athletics, great.
Whether you graduated from there, or a family member, most have a connection to the school they root for. The big brands still have their t shirt fans, but it isn’t a majority of the make up of the average college fan base
If we added 3 schools from the west they could be in a pod with BYU. If we added Memphis they could be a pod with UCin, WVU, UCF. South would be TT, TCU, BU, UH, North would be ISU, KSU, KU & OSU.
On a separate note, is it better to get two Arizona schools and Utah for travel ease or WSU, OSU & and Arizona school to get a broader footprint?
I don't know if it's the case, but the logical reason would be they suspect it's a matter of time and USC and Oregon are gone. Keep in mind that was a league with poor media dollars and headed up by a clear #1 in USC, who in an instate rivalry game just got absolutely smoked in the ratings by the Cy-Hawk game.
People need to realize that the PAC 12 had not expanded prior to the OU and UT situation because the conference was a train wreck. The only reason talk of expansion by the PAC 12 has occurred since is because there has been an even bigger trainwreck come along. None of the Big 12 problems change the fact that nobody watches the PAC.
That's because no one has left yet, if USC and Oregon aren't in the equation, that narrative around the pac changes. Who knows though, if it doesn't impact ESPN financially, it may not get as much attention. The situation isn't comparable to the big 12 at all, yet.
Texas is not in the same position as KSU, OSU and ISU would be in...Texas doesn't need a pay day!
That’s every conference not named the sec, even before ou and ut, though.
"College Football is a regional sport!" they shouted as they expanded their conference across four times zones...
When it's at its best, it is a regional sport, where most of the games are regional rivalries, with the occasional Oregon -OSU type game. And if there was a way to get all the conferences and schools together to blow it up and start over, things would be organized as such. But that probably can't happen, so conferences and schools are all just scrambling to make the best out of the teams they have and can poach.
There's of course a point where it gets TOO regional and the great rivalries can't overcome the lack of national interest. Case in point was the SWC died even though it had Texas and A&M.
The PAC had a one month window to invite the remaining 8 from the Big XII and form a super conference. Or even 6 of the 8 (enough to get the votes to disband the Big XII without penalties) and they failed to act aggressively. Their leadership/schools blew it. **** or get off the pot.
Or the remaining Big12 schools want the payout from OU and Texas...and then they will look around for a new conference?
it has been rumored in the past, that the other conferences wanted to make sure Texas and Oklahoma and espn paid for their skullduggery
but there are 8 universities that are preparing to take a pretty sizable hit to their athletic department bottom line. They need any and all of infusions of cash they can get at this point.
That may be, but I think MeanDean's point is Pac had a chance to swarm, but didn't.
BIG16
EAST:
ISU
KSU
KU
WVU
CIN
UCF
HOU
TCU
WEST:
ASU
ARIZ
COLO
UTAH
BYU
OSU
BU
TTU
Dream scenario
Would be an amazingly fun football conference and probably the best basketball conference in the country. Would span every time zone basically and include 11 states.
EAST:
ISU
KSU
KU
WVU
CIN
UCF
HOU
TCU
WEST:
ASU
ARIZ
COLO
UTAH
BYU
OSU
BU
TTU
Dream scenario
Would be an amazingly fun football conference and probably the best basketball conference in the country. Would span every time zone basically and include 11 states.
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