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Positive *Informative* Covid News
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This study found that the likelihood of passing on the virus increased with the severity of symptoms:Here's another one.
The coronavirus pandemic is being driven by people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s who don't know they're infected, according to WHO
"People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are increasingly driving the spread. Many are unaware they are infected," a WHO official said.www.businessinsider.com
I have not paid any attention to how "open" New York is right now.
What stage are they at now?
Right but asymptomatics are less likely to quarantine or social distance which is driving the spread.
From January and February before mitigation was a thing.
At my work today there was a guy that was denied entry because he had a temp over 100 and he was quite indignant. It's unbelievable how selfish people can be.
The coronavirus is being spread largely by younger people, many of whom are unaware they are infected, according to the World Health Organization.
WHO officials said on Tuesday that the proportion of young people infected with the virus had risen and continued to rise and that they were putting elderly people and other vulnerable groups at risk.
"The epidemic is changing," WHO's Western Pacific regional director, Takeshi Kasai, said at a virtual briefing in comments reported by Reuters.
"People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are increasingly driving the spread," he said. "Many are unaware they are infected. This increases the risk of spillovers to the more vulnerable."
www.businessinsider.com
WHO officials said on Tuesday that the proportion of young people infected with the virus had risen and continued to rise and that they were putting elderly people and other vulnerable groups at risk.
"The epidemic is changing," WHO's Western Pacific regional director, Takeshi Kasai, said at a virtual briefing in comments reported by Reuters.
"People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are increasingly driving the spread," he said. "Many are unaware they are infected. This increases the risk of spillovers to the more vulnerable."
The coronavirus pandemic is being driven by people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s who don't know they're infected, according to WHO
"People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are increasingly driving the spread. Many are unaware they are infected," a WHO official said.
www.businessinsider.com
Euromomo data might be the most complete set of mortality data anywhere in the world. It's a collection of data from 24 European countries with a total population of around 400 million people. Here is their Covid19 cases (blue) and deaths (red) since the beginning of the epidemic. Deaths have leveled off to almost nothing (70/day for a 400 million population) despite many positive cases popping up. The epidemic was essentially over for these countries at the beginning of July. This corresponds with a 10-20% infection rate.
Holy cow, it looks like in mid May they had Zombies come back. What is that? About a negative 1000 deaths? Means those people weren't really dead?
That's good news. It verifies what the WHO has been saying. The spread is now being driven by less at risk groups.
Probably. But in those European countries, there are not many "at risk" people getting the virus based on their hospitalization and death rates, so is it really spreading? There is also a problem with false positives, and the PCR tests picking up viral fragments from people that had the virus a month ago and are no longer contagious. It's not clear at all how many people are actually contagious that test positive. Either way, the question is, if the virus is still "spreading", but people are getting sick at very low rates, and almost no one is dying, what is the appropriate mitigation strategy?
Some of those countries are still imposing restrictions, because of the positive cases they are seeing, despite very little hospitalizations and almost no deaths. In my opinion, that is wrong. That is the problem with making policy decisions based off positive tests. Whether that be closing bars, large group restrictions, closing schools, shutting down sports, etc. If we get positive tests, but almost no one is getting sick, then we don't have a problem. Euromomo has been showing increasing positive cases, and completely flat, if not slowly decreasing deaths for a month and a half now. Likely mostly due to greatly ramping up testing. If PCR tests have a specificity of 95%, and 100,000 people are tested, they will find 5,000 positive cases, whether anyone actually has the virus, or not. When Iowa State tested all incoming students and 2.2% of them tested positive, it's entirely possible non of them actually had the virus, or could have had it several weeks ago but are no longer contagious. We just don't know. Positive tests don't give us that information.
We aren't quite there yet everywhere in the U.S., but some states are (NY, NJ, Mass, Conn, etc.). I think the rest of the country will be there in the next month. My fear is policy makers overreact to inevitable positive cases popping up, when actual illness and deaths are very low.
I'm sure that is a big part of it, but therapies have probably gotten better and hopefully the virus is getting less lethal. Even with being driven by less at risk groups, with the increase you would still expect to see more at risk groups also showing some affect.
Probably an adjustment to the data. The U.S. has done that several times to theirs. Possibly "assumed" covid19 deaths that hadn't actually been tested and that country(s) may have changed the way they report deaths to exclude anyone who didn't have a confirmed positive test. I don't know for sure though.
This is the reasoning for continued mitigation from the WHO.
"[T]he epidemic is changing: people in their 20s, 30s and 40s are increasingly driving its spread," Kasai said. "Many are unaware they’re infected — with very mild symptoms or none at all. This can result in them unknowingly passing on the virus to others."
"This increases the risk of spillovers to the most vulnerable: the elderly, the sick, people in long-term care, people who live in densely-populated urban areas and under-served rural areas," the WHO official continued. "We must redouble efforts to stop the virus from moving into vulnerable communities."
WHO: Young people driving coronavirus spread in many countries
Top World Health Organization (WHO) officials are warning that the coronavirus outbreak is now spreading fastest among younger people.At a Wednesday press briefing Takeshi Kasai, the WHO’…
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Completely agree about treatments getting better. The medical community isn't getting enough credit for the decrease in deaths.
I have to admit, your continued faith in the WHO is somewhat admirable.This is the reasoning for continued mitigation from the WHO.
"[T]he epidemic is changing: people in their 20s, 30s and 40s are increasingly driving its spread," Kasai said. "Many are unaware they’re infected — with very mild symptoms or none at all. This can result in them unknowingly passing on the virus to others."
"This increases the risk of spillovers to the most vulnerable: the elderly, the sick, people in long-term care, people who live in densely-populated urban areas and under-served rural areas," the WHO official continued. "We must redouble efforts to stop the virus from moving into vulnerable communities."
WHO: Young people driving coronavirus spread in many countries
Top World Health Organization (WHO) officials are warning that the coronavirus outbreak is now spreading fastest among younger people.At a Wednesday press briefing Takeshi Kasai, the WHO’…
They are wrong, at least for Europe. The Euromomo data is pretty clear. The virus has already gone through most of the vulnerable communities in those countries.This is the reasoning for continued mitigation from the WHO.
"[T]he epidemic is changing: people in their 20s, 30s and 40s are increasingly driving its spread," Kasai said. "Many are unaware they’re infected — with very mild symptoms or none at all. This can result in them unknowingly passing on the virus to others."
"This increases the risk of spillovers to the most vulnerable: the elderly, the sick, people in long-term care, people who live in densely-populated urban areas and under-served rural areas," the WHO official continued. "We must redouble efforts to stop the virus from moving into vulnerable communities."
WHO: Young people driving coronavirus spread in many countries
Top World Health Organization (WHO) officials are warning that the coronavirus outbreak is now spreading fastest among younger people.At a Wednesday press briefing Takeshi Kasai, the WHO’…
The WHO statements are problematic because they don't differentiate between different areas of the world. The virus is still very much spreading in countries in tropical climates, although they will be on a downward trend soon, if not already (south america, Australia, Mexico, southern U.S.). There are still vulnerable communities that could be hit hard in those areas, but not in the Euromomo countries and a chunk of the U.S.
The virus spread has pretty much followed seasonality trends of influenza viruses. Northern countries have outbreaks in December through March/April. Tropical climates have slower, but longer lasting outbreaks in May through August/September. Look at the death curves for most European countries and northern U.S. states, and the curves for south american countries, the middle east, and the southern U.S.
Here is an explanation I've already shared. You can disagree with it, but the Euromomo data back it up. Keep in mind, he's specifically talking about Europe in the video. In my opinion it doesn't matter if they are going up. Illness and deaths are way down, and staying down. If they are picking up positive cases due to huge increased in testing, but no one is getting sick and dying, then we shouldn't care about those positive cases.
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