Ames urbanization and densification

I think this discussion side-steps the problem: in-town travel is a debacle. If you can get to 30 or 35, you’re fine. But god forbid you’re stuck on the “grid.” Ames High to Lowe’s should not take 15 minutes (20 on a weekend).
Can’t argue with that. Lincoln way, Grand and Duff are awful. There are some ways to get around North Ames much better than the rest of Ames.
 
“Quick“ is relative for someone who has commuted to work in DC/NYC/LA etc. I find most people who complain about Ames traffic are the one who mainly visit Ames on game days.

spending a ton of money to get people to the NW corner of town more quickly would be a horrible waste of money. Instead of taking 13 minutes to get there from I-35 it takes 8?
Other than managing game day traffic there is essentially no need to spend money on roads for people in Ames to “bypass traffic” or make routes quicker to parts of town.
Outside of game days and soccer/baseball Saturdays on South Duff You can get to/from anywhere in town in less than 20 mins.
There are so many needs to make the city operate better that should be priority over any major bypass/direct routes to housing areas.
 
This was 2012, graduated in 2016. I've come back for some football games with friends in 2018 and 2019. Campustown is definitely doing some things right. Duff and east Lincoln are still pretty appalling, though the new hotel/apartment project north of Lincoln and south of Main looks promising.

I'd pose another question: given Campustown being developed so quickly, would you like to see Campustown become the true "center" of Ames? By that I mean a neighborhood that is the most dense in Ames, and a neighborhood that is inviting to people other than students. Perhaps, eventually, there would be enough restaurants and amenities for young professionals to actually want to live there. Just a thought, this would obviously take years of development for Campustown to get to this point.

While there is some overlap, I think the needs for students vs the rest of the community are different enough, and space is limited enough in campus town that it would be really hard to thread that needle. It is attractive to many non-students now, and could be moreso, but I don’t think there’s the business space in campus town to get the volume and diversity of businesses to make it THE central hub of town.
 
While there is some overlap, I think the needs for students vs the rest of the community are different enough, and space is limited enough in campus town that it would be really hard to thread that needle. It is attractive to many non-students now, and could be moreso, but I don’t think there’s the business space in campus town to get the volume and diversity of businesses to make it THE central hub of town.

I don't know if campustown has the space available for parking. It's certainly not a place I enjoy going currently.
 
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spending a ton of money to get people to the NW corner of town more quickly would be a horrible waste of money. Instead of taking 13 minutes to get there from I-35 it takes 8?
Other than managing game day traffic there is essentially no need to spend money on roads for people in Ames to “bypass traffic” or make routes quicker to parts of town.
Outside of game days and soccer/baseball Saturdays on South Duff You can get to/from anywhere in town in less than 20 mins.
There are so many needs to make the city operate better that should be priority over any major bypass/direct routes to housing areas.

What you are saying is true today, but what about in 10 to 15 years? With the growth of new housing being built between the NW part of Ames and North to Gilbert its going to be a mess and getting worse.
 
spending a ton of money to get people to the NW corner of town more quickly would be a horrible waste of money. Instead of taking 13 minutes to get there from I-35 it takes 8?
Other than managing game day traffic there is essentially no need to spend money on roads for people in Ames to “bypass traffic” or make routes quicker to parts of town.
Outside of game days and soccer/baseball Saturdays on South Duff You can get to/from anywhere in town in less than 20 mins.
There are so many needs to make the city operate better that should be priority over any major bypass/direct routes to housing areas.
There's a lot of truth in your post, but Duff is a nightmare during the work week even when the students are away. There's no good way to leave the various businesses that are slammed next to each other and trying to grab lunch from any of the fast food joints on that side of town - even during the pandemic - takes WAY longer than it should. Outside of the lunch hour and gamedays, Ames is very manageable. Adding a dedicated right-hand turn lane into some of these places would help significantly.
 
There's a lot of truth in your post, but Duff is a nightmare during the work week even when the students are away. There's no good way to leave the various businesses that are slammed next to each other and trying to grab lunch from any of the fast food joints on that side of town - even during the pandemic - takes WAY longer than it should. Outside of the lunch hour and gamedays, Ames is very manageable. Adding a dedicated right-hand turn lane into some of these places would help significantly.

I just avoid south duff if at all possible. Its a **** show.
 
Looking at Google maps, you are correct, its not a T, but I think it does goes from 4 lanes done to 2 is what it looks like. I have never been on the road North of Ontario, we turn right there, driving east to Stange and then North by the gulf course. No matter what way you go, its a mess either off i35 down 13th street, or trying 135, off at 30 and then North on S. Dakota. When you are attempting to get to the NW part of town.

Yes. Way to NW Ames depends on where one starts. From downtown area, might as well go Duff or Grand to Bloomington, west to where ever. When I lived in Ames, it was either far SE Ames or far west Ames. No particular reason to NW Ames much.
 
When I was in college 15 years ago I took a city planning course and a project was to add something - anything- to Ames infrastructure. My proposed project was a highway around the NW section of Ames and the class told me that was a stupid idea because Ames will never grow in that area.

I took that class too or a similar one. Mine was basically to make Campustown pedestrian only and the only feedback from other students was "where would we park".... I don't know maybe that GIANT ASS BRAND NEW INTERMODAL FACILITY THAT NO ONE USES!? (Or at least at the time no one used it. Hope it's finally gotten some traction)
 
IMHO what Ames needs as much as a crosstown thruway (like above) is more flood control. I'm curious what the engineers think of propping up the flood plain and paving it with more concrete. Seems to me the Skunk and (renamed) Squaw are disasters waiting to happen when '93 repeats itself.
 

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