Also a Ridgeline guy. I love it, Drives great. I just got it over Xmas. Cant wait to take it tailgating. Worked great for the spring game.
Who's the best? Chevy ~ Ford ~ Dodge...
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Also a Ridgeline guy. I love it, Drives great. I just got it over Xmas. Cant wait to take it tailgating. Worked great for the spring game.
I've owned 3 Tundra's...the first year they came out, a 2005, and now a 2008. I would HIGHLY recommend a Tundra to you or anyone. I would HIGHLY recommend a TOYOTA to anyone. Both sides of my family have pretty much all Toyota products now and we have not one complaint.
Never had a lick of problems with any of them. I had 150k miles on my 05 and never did anything but std maintenance. I do drive quite a few hwy miles, but I also drive a lot of off road on ranches and construction sites. I've been on plenty of roads down here that would be great testing facilities : ). I actually sold the 05 to my service manager at work, and he LOVES it. It still rides like a brand new truck, it handles great, to be honest I should have kept it...but my buddy the Toyota sales guy made me a ridiculous deal on this one when gas hit $4 last July. I think I actually like this one better than the 05...it does get better mpg even though this one is a 4x4.
As someone pointed out, Toyota is NOT perfect...but they DO stand behind their products. Who else would offer 150% of excellent value for trade in? Ford left me stranded, Chrysler was POS, and my GM products were marginal at best. I have a buddy that Toyota put in a brand new motor in this Sienna van with 107k miles on it. He bought it from his FIL and the motor gunked up. He told the guy at the service bay that they had done all maintence as per the manual and he didn't expect this with a Toyota. The guy looked at him and said "your right", called Toyota and they told him to send the bill to them...not a dime out of pocket. My parents had some small paint issues on their Avalon and Toyota jumped all over it. They finally sold it with 200k miles of total trouble free driving.
My uncle in law has 200k on his tundra...he did put in 02 sensors at 150k miles, that was $500 bucks or so.
For the "American" buyers, my trucks are all build in Indiana. My wife's Sienna was built in Kentucky. And the best part is they are NOT stealing my tax money...and respect me and my hard earned cash enough not to sell me a POS like every "American" car I've owned.
Never had a lick of problems with any of them. I had 150k miles on my 05 and never did anything but std maintenance. I do drive quite a few hwy miles, but I also drive a lot of off road on ranches and construction sites. I've been on plenty of roads down here that would be great testing facilities : ). I actually sold the 05 to my service manager at work, and he LOVES it. It still rides like a brand new truck, it handles great, to be honest I should have kept it...but my buddy the Toyota sales guy made me a ridiculous deal on this one when gas hit $4 last July. I think I actually like this one better than the 05...it does get better mpg even though this one is a 4x4.
As someone pointed out, Toyota is NOT perfect...but they DO stand behind their products. Who else would offer 150% of excellent value for trade in? Ford left me stranded, Chrysler was POS, and my GM products were marginal at best. I have a buddy that Toyota put in a brand new motor in this Sienna van with 107k miles on it. He bought it from his FIL and the motor gunked up. He told the guy at the service bay that they had done all maintence as per the manual and he didn't expect this with a Toyota. The guy looked at him and said "your right", called Toyota and they told him to send the bill to them...not a dime out of pocket. My parents had some small paint issues on their Avalon and Toyota jumped all over it. They finally sold it with 200k miles of total trouble free driving.
My uncle in law has 200k on his tundra...he did put in 02 sensors at 150k miles, that was $500 bucks or so.
For the "American" buyers, my trucks are all build in Indiana. My wife's Sienna was built in Kentucky. And the best part is they are NOT stealing my tax money...and respect me and my hard earned cash enough not to sell me a POS like every "American" car I've owned.
I go GM all the way!!
Many from my family worked in the Oldsmobile Assembly Line in Lansing for generations. Hence the Michigan State connection...
Many from my family worked in the Oldsmobile Assembly Line in Lansing for generations. Hence the Michigan State connection...
You sound like my boss when I bought my 2nd Toyota (1st one in Texas at my current job). Keeping in mind I love my customers as they are all (seriously) really nice people, but in the construction industry these are your very conservative, gun owning, chewing, swearing, red necks (and they'll all agree with that). :smile:
I had a few of them say that to me...one of my favorites who has since passed away, a big old boy named Bennett Jordan told me "oh you're drivin' one of those damn Jap trucks"...now keep in mind he used to call me "that f23rn' salesman" as well. :wink: Anyway I went to lunch with him and then we went to a job site and I told him since he had to come back this way just jump in and I'd bring him back to his truck. He didn't get 5 blocks before he asked me what type of milage I got. "Man this thing rides really nice...and it' quite...maybe I should get one of these to drive to job sites...my F350 is killing me on diesel and tires" I just looked at him and said "you think you could drive one of these f3r4en' Jap trucks Bennett?" :wink:.
I can give you at least 3-4 other times it happened pretty much the same way. I had a TON of guys ask me about pricing (I want to get a truck like that for personal use / my wife / upgrade).
I think you'll be shocked how little greif you'd get with a Toyota. And if someone really wants to be a **** about it, I just tell them my truck was built in America...has more American made parts than their Chevy or Dodge, and YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO SUBSIDIZE MY TRUCK WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS. :realmad:
It's seems like it used to be this way a lot more. I remember being in a small rural town in Iowa during the 80's and there were maybe 3-4 imports in the whole town. Now when I go back I'm shocked by all the imports. Of course the Big 3 pickups still rule but I've seen some movement. It probably helps that Toyota went into Nascar and also completely copied Ford/Chevy. The older Tundra's use to be a lot different truck then the current version. The current version is taking Ford/Chevy head on.
I think it's hard to go wrong with any of these trucks. They all build so many that unless it's a first year model, they are probably going to be reliable.
With that being said, you don't see too many peeing stickers on Toyota trucks.
How many trucks do you see with "Buy American!" and "Union" stickers in the back window too.
I would argue that contractors aren't the best sample if you want to simply compare the quality of the products, instead of the badge on the front of them.
There are PLENTY of Toyotas used as work trucks outside the US. In fact, I would suspect that the vast majority of "work trucks" outside the US are neither Ford, nor Chevy nor Dodge, and they seem to work just fine.
Mind explaining how? Because they haven't taken a bailout yet? There are other auto manufactures that have also went without bailouts.
Not that there is anything wrong with Ford but I would never spend $30K because it made me feel patriotic.
They have innovative products. Their Fusion Hybrid and SYNC technology are amazing.
They've been much faster to deliver on products that consumers have asked for.
They had the foresight 3 years ago to make adjustments to keep their business afloat without government intervention.
They had the foresight to offload vanity brands like Jaguar, Aston Martin to keep their business afloat.
They sold off Mazda.
Their management and workers made the tough choices so we as consumers and taxpayers have to subsidize being inert.
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My experience with this is from personal experiences, friends experiences, and friends who are/were mechanics. The one truck mentioned I will admit I have no direct experience with is the newest Tundra's. I will say the last generations (especially the first) were toys compared to the Detroit trucks, period. Great for the weekend warrior, but not stout enough to handle big jobs.
Chevy, Ford, and Dodge do not export their trucks on any kind of major scale to most other nations, probably for a plethora of reasons.
Also, fleet trucks are bought not on sticker price or brand loyalty alone, but on value (read: initial price, reliability, usefullness, and resale). That is why you will see nearly all fleet trucks Chevy's or Fords. Perhaps part of this is they offer more than just the standard 1/2 ton rigs.
Anyway, like I said they all have + and -'s compared to each other. The only one I would personally stay away from is the Dodge.
The American version was DOA, which I'm actually rather pleased about. Part of what makes Top Gear so awesome is that they aren't beholden to advertisers. They can trash a product all they want and don't have to worry about selling them ad space.
You know what? The Chevy Aveo is absolute crap as far as cars go. And they can say it. How does an American, ad-sponsored show, be objective about a car they are trying to sell during the commercial break?
It would be totally awesome it if was on, say, HBO though.
Well it's only been around for 9 years. It was the Motor Trend Truck of the Year when it was introduced, and Consumer Reports called it the best full-sized truck in 2000 as well.
You can call them "toys", but you have nothing more than your opinion, and anecdotal evidence to back that up. And I don't know what sort of "big jobs" you do with a 1/2 ton truck, but I can't imagine anything that a F-150 or Silverado can do that a Tundra can't.
And aside from all this, the OP doesn't sound like he's going to be doing any
of these "big jobs" that would make the huge difference you claim exists between the "Detroit" trucks (which are mostly made in Mexico these days) and the "Jap" trucks (which are mostly made in the US these days).
Ugh. Google Tundra rear end failures or ring gear failures like I mentioned in the posts.
You don't have any evidence either to back it your statements up either. I am also not sure why you are calling me out here, because I have said in about every post here that they all have + and -'s.
How many times has Ford, Chevy, or Dodge been named truck of the year? Exactly.
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You just named 3 of the 6 companies in the world that produce trucks. My god I would hope they would at least win once in a while. If I remember correctly they only give it to new or redesign trucks. How many full size trucks are there?
Nissan Titan
Toyota Tundra
Al the Fords
All the GM trucks
All the Dodge trucks.
One of the main reasons I went with a Chevy also is repair costs/ able to maintain them yourself.
The ford, dodge, tundra all had very cramped engine compartments. BUt chevy has always given you plenty of room to work on your own truck.
For instance you want to change the spark plugs well on the Ford and the Tundra you can't really do that on your own without taking out the engine.
The ford, dodge, tundra all had very cramped engine compartments. BUt chevy has always given you plenty of room to work on your own truck.
For instance you want to change the spark plugs well on the Ford and the Tundra you can't really do that on your own without taking out the engine.
Well Psyclone Brian, what did you buy? I've been waiting for you to update your thread and let us know what you did but evidently you are still undecided on which one to get?
And, by the way, are you a PC or Mac man and do you think that an airplane can take off from a treadmill?
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