Bob Lazar

[jbindm]

Not just distance, but time.

How long has human civilization lasted? 10,000 years? How much longer until we go extinct? Another 10,000? If we are lucky?

20,000 years is an eyeblink to the billions of years old universe. Many intelligent civilizations could have popped up and petered out and never existed at the same time as another.

Right. I can buy the idea that other intelligent civilizations have existed before us, exist now, and will exist long after we're gone. And I also think that it's likely that even if more than one intelligent civilization ever existed at the same time they were never even close to being aware of each other. Space is that big and time is that long.

Of course, I got a C- in Astronomy so what the hell do I know?

 

[yowza]

Think of a couple of things. One, in the 1980s I don't think we had even established planets existed outside our own solar system. So what Bob was saying then sounded even crazier then than it does now. Now we know there are literally billions of planets. To me it is crazy to assume life didn't start elsewhere and could be far more advanced than us. Look how far we have come in just a couple hundred years for technology.

And also, it is not just Bob, it is the military pilots coming out now telling their stories. I don't see those pilots as some sort of crack pots.

Someone has some tech that is way beyond anything we know conventionally. I just hope it is good guy tech.

 

[Gonzo]

Like I said my big hangup is the records thing.

Los Alamos also denied ever having known or heard of him, saying he didn't ever work there. Then a phone registry of employees turned up with his name listed. And an article from the early 80s in the Los Alamos newspaper profiled Lazar and mentioned his employment as a physicist at the lab.

 

[yowza]

What is he claiming? Never heard of the guy.

Something you just have to watch for yourself to get the full and complete story from the source. Joe Rogan's discussion is very thought provoking also.

 

[isufbcurt]

Los Alamos also denied ever having known or heard of him, saying he didn't ever work there. Then a phone registry of employees turned up with his name listed. And an article from the early 80s in the Los Alamos newspaper profiled Lazar and mentioned his employment as a physicist at the lab.

I know this. But I don't see how the government would shut up everyone who knew him at the 2 colleges he claims. Plus there should be financial records showing he paid tuition there.

 

[yowza]

It's already been proven that some of his records have been expunged. Los Alamos has denied he ever worked there but it was proven that he did. They probably couldn't actually kill him because that' be obvious. The next best think is to make him look like a loon to discredit him. There's no better way to do that than to get rid of all his records.

What they could have done is make him have an "accident".

 

[yowza]

I listened to the podcast and found it really interesting. I really want to believe him but he's full of sh*t.

They said the same things to people who said the Earth was not the center of the universe. I'd just keep an open mind. This ain't Bigfoot.

 

[yowza]

The best part of the Rogan Pod was the end and talking about evolution and how they are finding primates that are thought to be entering the stone age right now. That stuff isn't just stopping. Then they were talking about how heads get bigger relative to bodies due to what is needed as technology evolves and that all had me blown away.

My only question would be why a more advanced civilization would remain as any sort of organic life form and not transition to machine. Easier to survive and travel as machines.

 

[jbindm]

I know this. But I don't see how the government would shut up everyone who knew him at the 2 colleges he claims.

Maybe they just went to the extent of scrubbing the official record and left it at that. How much damage can a little bit of anecdotal evidence from some scattered colleagues and/or friends really do when he's already battling uphill to establish credibility outside the true believers?

I don't know. I think people just hear what they want to hear, and that largely determines whether you think he's a nut job or the victim of a government conspiracy.

 

[yowza]

I know this. But I don't see how the government would shut up everyone who knew him at the 2 colleges he claims. Plus there should be financial records showing he paid tuition there.

At the one it sounded like he mostly commuted to and from. I could see no classmate remembering. Would never have established any connections most likely. I don't think we can argue the dude is not smarter than hell. He put a jet engine on a bike as a 12 year old. Who does that ****? Also if you believe he worked at Los Alamos, do you believe they hire someone with a high school degree? And the gentleman who referred him for the Area 51 deal is not refuting he did. he won't comment.

 

[yowza]

Some?

Think back to your college days for me. If this happened to you don't you think you'd have hundreds of people coming out and saying yeah I knew him and he was at ISU.

Crap I've had people come up to me randomly and say "Hey did you go to ISU and live on 4th floor of Wilson?". I didn't know them but they recognized me.

This is why I have a hard time believing the records being erased and that's my big hang up.

he commuted at the first school. he wasn't hanging out in the bars and dorms.

 

[yowza]

In 100 years I will bet people will be like how did people in the past not know or expect life to be abundant throughout the universe. We haven't been able to travel yet, but we eventually will. Most likely have to evolve to machines first to travel longer distances and prosper to any degree.

 

[yowza]

The greatest research.

You honestly believe the government can get to everyone who may have known him in college and get them all to say they don't know him?

I think the Government knows a lot of **** the public will not know for years. They are good at secrets when they want to be.

 

[NorthCyd]

They said the same things to people who said the Earth was not the center of the universe. I'd just keep an open mind. This ain't Bigfoot.

OMG, get out of here with that. We're not talking about denying something that someone has proven through scientific research and observation. We're talking about one man making some really incredible claims with little evidence. I listened to the podcast and find some of his claims very questionable if given just a little thought.

 

[Gonzo]

I know this. But I don't see how the government would shut up everyone who knew him at the 2 colleges he claims. Plus there should be financial records showing he paid tuition there.

They tried discrediting his claims that he worked at Los Alamos as a physicist. Then those efforts were proved false when proof came out that he did work there. I'd think that in order to get his job there in the first place he'd have to have presented convincing evidence that he had earned a college degree, and likely it would've had to have been from a pretty good school to get that level of position. If you're entire hangup is that they can't find people who he went to college with 50 years ago who do recall being with him there and willing to go public, I think it's safe to say there's no convincing you this guy is for real. To each his own.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Some?

Think back to your college days for me. If this happened to you don't you think you'd have hundreds of people coming out and saying yeah I knew him and he was at ISU.

Crap I've had people come up to me randomly and say "Hey did you go to ISU and live on 4th floor of Wilson?". I didn't know them but they recognized me.

This is why I have a hard time believing the records being erased and that's my big hang up.

One of them has been absolutely proven. There is no contending it.

I don't really think people understand the abilities of our government. Like, at all. It doesn't seem to even matter how much happens in the plain view, they must just not want to see it.

 

[Tre4ISU]

What they could have done is make him have an "accident".

But that's obvious, right? It draws attention. If I was dealing with him, I'd do exactly what they did. Just make him look like every other person that's seen a UFO.

 

[Gonzo]

One of them has been absolutely proven. There is no contending it.

I don't really think people understand the abilities of our government. Like, at all. It doesn't seem to even matter how much happens in the plain view, they must just not want to see it.

And just because hundreds of people knew one person back when they were in college means that it would be the same for someone else. Everyone's college experience is different. He may not have had many friends at all. And they've already had guys who went to CalTech come out and say yes, he went there, they gave him rides to class.

 

[yowza]

OMG, get out of here with that. We're not talking about denying something that someone has proven through scientific research and observation. We're talking about one man making some really incredible claims with little evidence. I listened to the podcast and find some of his claims very questionable if given just a little thought.

Sure and he notes that he is sure some of what he was fed was disinformation so they would make look foolish and able to track leaks. I don't believe 100% of what he says. I do believe some for sure. And to think what he was saying in the late 80s, it sounded about 1,000 times more crazy than it does here in 2019, especially with the pilot videos and their statements and interviews. This is nowhere near conventional tech they witnessed. Stuff the human body could not withstand and making movements in a manner that no one has ever witnessed from anything remotely conventional.

The thing is if you believe there is no likelihood of an intelligent life existing somewhere else then you aren't gonna believe anyone until you see it with your own eyes. Just the way it is.

Also what do you think of Elon Musk stating he believes it is likely we are living in some sort of simulation? Mind blowing thinking.

 

[yowza]

One of them has been absolutely proven. There is no contending it.

I don't really think people understand the abilities of our government. Like, at all. It doesn't seem to even matter how much happens in the plain view, they must just not want to see it.

Like the manner in which we conduct certain military/intelligence operations. I am sure it pays very very well to do it and shut up.