Oklahoma

[GrappleCy]

I'm also hoping we aren't looking ahead to O

Mantanona is having some issues and is taking an eternity doing anything. Stalling like crazy.

He's clearly got a concussion. That the Oklahoma staff has him out there finishing up the match is extremely bad on their part.

 

[JP4CY]

Willie holds on 6-5

 

[matclone]

Gremmel finishes with a solid win 6 to 1.

 

[Scott34]

Seriously....what took the ref so long to call stalling? That Oklahoma team reminds me so much of the KJ years. So glad Dresser has this team more aggressive.

 

[ISU22CY]

Good showing. Coleman wow that wouldn’t have happened a few years ago woulda been a layover and die. Shows these guys are buying in.

 

[LindenCy]

What was the final score?

 

[JP4CY]

What was the final score?

IIRC 25 - 6.

 

[matclone]

Iowa State 25 Oklahoma 6.

When was the last time we took 8 of 10 from Oklahoma?

Dresser starts press conference by saying it was not enough.

 

[crablegs]

Coleman dropped him on his head I think late in the first period. And the guy never looked the same after that. I kept waiting for the refs to stop the match but they didn't.

I thought the coaches should have stepped in. I don’t understand why they didn’t go to concussion protocol??

 

[CycloneFan97]

I thought the coaches should have stepped in. I don’t understand why they didn’t go to concussion protocol??

The thing is, they did...

 

[ricochet]

I thought the coaches should have stepped in. I don’t understand why they didn’t go to concussion protocol??

I thought it was a neck thing and not a concussion but maybe not. If it was a concussion then yes, the coaches should have stepped in. I'm not too familiar with the wrestling rules, but does the referee have some responsibility in concussion cases too?

 

[NjClone]

This team is on a roll. What an unbelievable comeback by Coleman. He was down 12-0 and won the match 15-14, just insane.

 

[JM4CY]

I am a born again cyclone wrestling fan. I was a student when Cael came but when he left I lost interest because we sucked so bad. Tonight was the first dual I'd been to in many years in hilton. Color me impressed. We are clearly well trained, conditioned and prepared. I am definitely a Dresser fan. Go state

 

[CloneinWDSM]

Wrestling noob here. Never been to a meet before but have checked out a few matches on CYTV. My question of the night is what all constitutes stalling? Is there set criteria or just a refs judgement? Do you always lose a point or is there a warning for it?


Thinking about trying to make it for my first Dual in the near future.

 

[jkbuff98]

I thought it was a neck thing and not a concussion but maybe not. If it was a concussion then yes, the coaches should have stepped in. I'm not too familiar with the wrestling rules, but does the referee have some responsibility in concussion cases too?

The trainers evaluate the wrestler on the mat if they are uncertain the wrestler is allowed to leave the mat and go to the back for further evaluation by medical staff. There is unlimited time for concussion evaluation. The decision is made by trainers/ medical staff. I agree this may have been more of a neck issue .

 

[cyclonetsunami]

I thought it was a neck thing and not a concussion but maybe not. If it was a concussion then yes, the coaches should have stepped in. I'm not too familiar with the wrestling rules, but does the referee have some responsibility in concussion cases too?

I rewatched it. Mantanona did hit his head on the mat, but he is well known for gassing hard and taking "lung" time outs. This year he has had matches of Won 18-14, Loss 11-10, Loss 13-11, Won 14-13, Loss 14-13. They have the same pattern, he scores a lot of points and then crashes, stalls, and calls injury timeouts. Give credit to Mantanona in the first and I hope he is okay, but Coleman deserves credit for the comeback too.

 

[cyclonetsunami]

They had a very similar match at UWW Juniors in the summer. Mantanona was dominating and was ahead 10-2 and Coleman came back to win 23-13.

 

[JM4CY]

Went back and watched some of the highlights and have some thoughts/questions for those who know the team better.

- Are people starting to figure out how to wrestle guys like Austin and Jarrett? Clearly you need to wrestle Gomez differently and be aware what he can do on his feet. And Degan, that dude gets himself into the WEIRDest looking scrambles and positions. It's like wrestling a preying mantis or something. Does a year of tape on him give a big advantage?

- Willie seems like a guy that in a way would drive a coach bonkers. He's clearly better but is in way to many close matches with kids he should destroy.

- What is the ceiling for gremmel this year? He seems to have the talent but something about him seems raw still.

 

[theshadow]

My question of the night is what all constitutes stalling? Is there set criteria or just a refs judgement? Do you always lose a point or is there a warning for it?

1. A little of both (criteria and judgement). There are specific things that are automatically stalling, like fleeing the mat. Then there are other things that are up to the ref -- activity, constantly backing up, etc.

2. First stall is a warning. Then it's 1 point, 1 point, 1 point, DQ.

 

[OOTClone]

Mantanona did hit his head on the mat, but he seemed fine for the next 20-seconds of wrestling, going upper body and going for a throw on the edge. Then just faded. Could have been effects of that or that seems like the time most dudes will start to gas.

Gomez and Madrigal wrestled each other in the IL state finals. Similar match - Madrigal early 4-0 lead, Gomez came back and controlled the rest of the match. Gomez was gimpy at the end of the match, hopefully nothing big with Fix tomorrow.

Huge win for Parker. Demas is tough and has some good results. Parker vs Brock is big tomorrow. Needs to stay out of the double-overs.

Overall, the team is looking the best they have since 2010. Still young but dudes have fight, gas tanks, and an attack-mentality. Fun to watch again.