Texas Tech 10 Million Dollar Portal Season

I get what you’re saying but in this case it doesn’t bother me. In a wild landscape of what’s allowable and what’s not, betting on a game you’re involved in should be the one no-brained. When Dekkers went through all that there was anger at law enforcement, but really not disagreement that he should be banner. It’s supposed to be a given. The fact this isn’t even a sure thing any more should be what finally breaks the dam, even for the SEC.
I’m actually ok with the B10 and SEC piling on here and even refusing to play TT because this is so egregious. Every single person who likes sports should be against this.

Where it gets stupid is those conferences capitalizing on this to stump for self-governance as if that would have prevented this. A Texas judge could grant an injunction against an SEC/B10 rule just as easily as they could against an NCAA rule. That wouldn’t change a thing.
 
There's no way anyone can set a legit gambling line on TT games this yinvolvement.

Half the snaps will be taken by an admitted/allegedly recovering gambling addict with a long and well-documented history of gambling on college football games in ways that purposefully concealed his involvment.
There doesn't have to be a legit line on his games--you'll be betting on whether he "throws" the game or not
 
I’m actually ok with the B10 and SEC piling on here and even refusing to play TT because this is so egregious. Every single person who likes sports should be against this.

Where it gets stupid is those conferences capitalizing on this to stump for self-governance as if that would have prevented this. A Texas judge could grant an injunction against an SEC/B10 rule just as easily as they could against an NCAA rule. That wouldn’t change a thing.
That's really the biggest takeaway IMO. It's bad enough a player who gambled on his own team is allowed to play. But now it doesn't matter what the NCAA rules so long as there is a judge who can overrule the ruling.

The NCAA rules are in place so everyone adheres to the same rules. But if judges overrule these rules, then we are no longer playing on an equal playing field.

What's next? Will a judge change the rules of the game itself? Will Texas Tech be allowed have 5 downs to get a first down now? Obviously this is an extreme, but there are no rules anymore. It's just chaos
 
I get what you’re saying but in this case it doesn’t bother me. In a wild landscape of what’s allowable and what’s not, betting on a game you’re involved in should be the one no-brained. When Dekkers went through all that there was anger at law enforcement, but really not disagreement that he should be banner. It’s supposed to be a given. The fact this isn’t even a sure thing any more should be what finally breaks the dam, even for the SEC.

Except @cyclo120 is right, because any SEC or Big Ten school in the same situation—rental quarterback with no backup plan that could still win them the conference—would do the same thing, which is what makes my eyes roll to the back of my head
 
Question: If TT was on ISU's schedule this year, would you support ISU refusing to play them if Sorsby is playing?

I would vote to cancel the game, assuming the punishment from the conference is tolerable.

No. I'd play them and put a bounty on him. Injure him and get $250k.
 
I just think of the JP's of this profession, which I imagine there are many. You got into it because you love college athletics and you have a skill for raising money, looking towards the future of your programs, etc. And now you're somehow left with this. At some point they have to draw a line in the sand. Maybe it pisses off your Commissioner. Maybe it pisses off ESPN. Maybe it's not great for the future of your Athletic Department. But at some point these otherwise well-intentioned ADs and college presidents have to make a stand.
 
The impetus for the law was in large part the clock

Regardless, with or without the backing of state law, it’s fairly ubiquitous to colleges and fans that the NCAA is feckless- that you don’t have to follow the ncaa rules

Yet, no other college is exploiting that on playing guys that have been outed as betting on their games

I’m guessing in a counterfactual in which it was an elite doing this, a OSU type, the reaction would be more against the broken system. Similar to how it’s the system to blame for schools breaking NIL or rev share caps. It’s the system to hate for players getting 7th years. It’s the system to hate for poaching.

unfortunately for Tech, they aren’t the brand that people want to deliver this message
Impetus was to preempt NCAA and SEC on NIL restrictions.
 
The impetus for the law was in large part the clock

Regardless, with or without the backing of state law, it’s fairly ubiquitous to colleges and fans that the NCAA is feckless- that you don’t have to follow the ncaa rules

Yet, no other college is exploiting that on playing guys that have been outed as betting on their games

I’m guessing in a counterfactual in which it was an elite doing this, a OSU type, the reaction would be more against the broken system. Similar to how it’s the system to blame for schools breaking NIL or rev share caps. It’s the system to hate for players getting 7th years. It’s the system to hate for poaching.

unfortunately for Tech, they aren’t the brand that people want to deliver this message
 
I don't see how Tech wins here. They have painted themselves into a corner and they can't get out.
There is a way out. I don't know what the proper terminology would be, but they could keep Sorsby on the team and list him as "injured and unable to compete for the season" or some such thing. He continues to get treatment for his gambling addiction at TT's expense, he could continue to train at TT, and they might even have to pay him his NIL to prevent getting sued by him. But he never plays in a game.

I would guess that TT doesn't want to spend a bunch of money on Sorsby if he can't play, but it could be a way to repair the gigantic craphole rift that they have created between themselves and the rest of the teams, if they actually care about the rift.
 
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That's really the biggest takeaway IMO. It's bad enough a player who gambled on his own team is allowed to play. But now it doesn't matter what the NCAA rules so long as there is a judge who can overrule the ruling.

The NCAA rules are in place so everyone adheres to the same rules. But if judges overrule these rules, then we are no longer playing on an equal playing field.

Now? It’s been the case for years.

The only guardrails was in which lines schools were willing to not walk over.
 
Question: If TT was on ISU's schedule this year, would you support ISU refusing to play them if Sorsby is playing?

I would vote to cancel the game, assuming the punishment from the conference is tolerable.
Only if the rest of the conference schedule they have also goes along with it. If not, it's just hurting ourselves for no actual gain, unfortunately.
 
I don't see how Tech wins here. They have painted themselves into a corner and they can't get out.
They don't really need to do much at all. It doesn't matter to their fans if opposing fans are mad that Sorsby plays. All they care about as a program is winning games. Fans will show up and nothing bad will happen so long as that's the case.

I think you also find a subset of opposing fans who aren't even mad at Tech for playing within the (failed) rule framework put in front of them, they're just mad at the NCAA and/or government instead.
 
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I’m actually ok with the B10 and SEC piling on here and even refusing to play TT because this is so egregious. Every single person who likes sports should be against this.

Where it gets stupid is those conferences capitalizing on this to stump for self-governance as if that would have prevented this. A Texas judge could grant an injunction against an SEC/B10 rule just as easily as they could against an NCAA rule. That wouldn’t change a thing.
Just wait, the B10 & SEC's next step will be to not schedule any Big 12 schools because the conference didn't do anything to meaningfully punish Texas Tech if they play Sorsby. B10 & SEC can get to their scheduling dream of just playing each other and they can come out trying to look like the good guys.
 
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I don't see how Tech wins here. They have painted themselves into a corner and they can't get out.

There is an obvious way out

Don’t play him

Keep him on the team. Soapbox how in the current broken system there isn’t anything preventing him from playing. Let the question linger. But don’t play him

The P2 already hated that a school of Tech’s ilk could buy their way to the clubhouse. Much of the tears of previous few weeks were about Tech.

So Tech coming out and saying they won’t play them doesn’t change much. They should play the villain and increase their brand. Just don’t actually cross the line
 
There is a way out. I don't know what the proper terminology would be, but they could keep Sorsby on the team and list him as "injured and unable to compete for the season" or some such thing. He continues to get treatment for his gambling addiction at TT's expense, he could continue to train at TT, and they might even have to pay him his NIL to prevent getting sued by him. But he never plays in a game.

I would guess that TT doesn't want to spend a bunch of money on Sorsby if he can't play, but it could be a way to repair the gigantic craphole rift that they have created between themselves and the rest of the teams, if they actually care about the rift.
Agree and tell him that now due to the backlash so that he can then decide on entering the Supplemental Draft and move on (even though he may have to sit out a season there).

IIRC, similar to Bubu Palo and ISU (and SIAP)