My Dad was a juror on the last state death penalty case in Iowa in the 1960s. He didn’t talk about it much, but I know it was very stressful for him.
Ashley Okland Murder
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My brother in law served on a Federal Grand Jury for the Northern District of Iowa for like 2 years, so he had to drive once a month down to Cedar Rapids from Dubuque for a few days when Breaking Bad was on tv. Based on his experience with that grand jury, he could basically tell which steps in the meth making process were left out of the show.
I’ve never been called, but want to be sometime. Meanwhile my wife has been called like 3 times
My mom was in a jury pool in Black Hawk county. One old women was questioned about the defendent and she said she knew him because he had stolen from her and she was allowed to stay on the jury. In addition, a potential juror had her purse stolen while they were waiting and video showed it was another potential juror. My mom came away from the experience saying she'd plead guilty of accused of a crime n that county.
Didn't think you would be interested in anyone else getting a cut
2001 Barbara Brimm Rural Hamilton County had lunch with her husband he came back in that evening found her dead. That case has never been solved either.
I forgot about that. ISU related, albeit a morbid one and a stretch, is that Jeffrey Dahmer lived in Pammel Court. I believe his parents were grad students, and they moved to Wi when he was like 5.
Plus there doesn't have to be a relationship. And just because someone remains married, doesn't mean the marriage is solid.
Defendant could have had crush on Ashley Okland's boyfriend from a distance. And dilusionally thought by getting Okland out of the picture she had a chance. But then reality sets in after the killing.
One thing haven't seen mentioned is maybe the defendant turned herself in. In the press conference I don't recall the police being specific on how she was arrested. I recall they just said something like without incident.
Why would you kill someone's kids because of their dads issues? What exactly do you gain out of that? Its more than likely a sex offender who somewhat knew the girls. If I have dirt on someone killing my kids sure as **** isn't getting me to not talk. Especially if I'm a low level drug pusher that has been granted immunity. People who are in the drug business kill other people in the drug business. They don't kill children and bring 10x the heat on to themselves killing innocent children. That makes no sense. Is it some perv addict friend of their parents? Maybe, however killing someone's kid so their parents won't talk really makes no sense. If you know something or owe me money I'm killing you, not your kids. I have absolutely zero to gain. Were they messing around with Haitians or something? Anyone who kills kids over their parents drug problems are getting killed by someone bigger than them. You don't cross that line. So I agree that it's probably some user the parents knew but they did it for sexual gratification.
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About 10 months after I got out of the Navy I was called for jury duty and sat on a murder trial in Des Moines. The defense team/defendant put on the worst defense imaginable. We convicted within 30 minutes. One old woman holdout smh.
This one hit home to me in the early 2000's.
The victim worked at the same place as I did at the time.
And the husband and wife lived at the end of my block.
While I agree with your general position on frivolous lawsuits, I’m not sure this one qualifies. I am certain that I wouldn’t think the mistake was frivolous if it was my… appendage.
Because normal people can't afford to lose several weeks of pay. I mean you make absolutely nothing being on the jury. Besides that it can be emotionally draining. You're talking about losing 8-10k in pay over 3 weeks for someone who makes 100k a year. Most people don't even make that. If the county wants to match my pay let's do it and I'll take it seriously.
If your aren't wealthy you really don't. If you have several hundred thousand in the bank and make 200k yearly maybe you can afford it. In reality on a huge case you're talking a week in jury selection alone, and then 2 weeks for trial. I mean I can't live on the 40$ per day or whatever they gave me. That's the main issue for 99% of people. The county isn't paying my mortgage and car payment for the 2-3-4 weeks I'm in court. I want to say I got like a 200$ check from Polk County for missing 4 days of work. I bring home around 400$ a day after taxes . Yeah it doesn't work. I do usually take 3-4 weeks off a year unpaid but it isn't to hang out at the Polk County Courthouse.
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What county? I'm not gonna say I didn't think about having sex with other jurors I'm just not sure about the marriage part.
Chuckle...I hear you. However, he got a free vasectomy and he could always get the circumcision still at a later time. The couple were obviously well past child bearing age so he wasn't out anything there. Now if the couple were in their child bearing years I agree, I wouldn't call it a frivolous lawsuit, that would be serious.
I would like to know the story behind why he wanted a circumcision while in his 60's.
True, he might have wanted to have a child with his mistress or something.....
my round was an eye-opening on different viewpoints. But mostly frustrating on my part that a small group of my co jurors wanted to grant the plaintiff money, even though they felt the defendant wasn’t at fault, they felt “sorry” for the plaintiff.
