This is depressing... :(

I love how a Spartan fan posts on here, like Michigan State is some big play university. And for a guy that views this site every day, it’s a daily lol. Except for 4-5 universities in the Big 10, everyone else is just Iowa State 2.0. Laughing in our face, but is every bit Iowa State when super conferences come about in 10 years. I do hope though the big 15 schools break off and fall on their faces. College football is a regional sport and I’ll swear by that.
 
I love how a Spartan fan posts on here, like Michigan State is some big play university. And for a guy that views this site every day, it’s a daily lol. Except for 4-5 universities in the Big 10, everyone else is just Iowa State 2.0. Laughing in our face, but is every bit Iowa State when super conferences come about in 10 years. I do hope though the big 15 schools break off and fall on their faces. College football is a regional sport and I’ll swear by that.
They are like most of the schools in the B10, they made a decision 75 to 100 years ago to join the B10 and it's paying off now. If they had chosen a different conference they would be in the same boat we are. He is one of those born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple to get there.
 
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They are in the conference that is paying out the most money now, they are calling the shots in the conference, and you think they are going to jump and become an independent or move to the SEC? Strange hill to die on, but here you are.
Yes I think they will jump if they are told they have to do equal revenue sharing.
 
ND makes less than a B10 team makes from their media deal, and Michigan and USC are not ND, with fans all across the country. The B10 media deal goes for another 5 years after this season, so the Have schools are going nowhere for at least the end of that deal.
You can leave the conference and go anywhere is totally different than we are leaving. Sure the SEC would take Ohio State and Michigan, but if you are one of those teams, are you going to go from running the conference to being just another team in the conference, and playing Alabama, Georgia and the rest of the SEC teams week in and week out. Little harder than playing in the B10, and yes they beat Texas, at home in the first game of the year. Looking that their schedule this year, they miss both Oregon and Indiana, along with USC. They have played all the bottom feeders, they are talented but it's not like they are playing good teams every week.

I think it's pretty clear that Michigan isn't running that conference. They haven't wanted the useless expansion, they don't want this PE deal at all, and they were hardly shown any favoritism or even support during the Stallions thing.

And they could go independent whenever they want. They'd make a touch less money but they'd be in full control.
 
The B10 media deal does not run out until the 2029/30 season, to get out of the contract before then would cost each school hundreds of millions. Just because they can go anywhere, does not mean that either school is willing to do so.
Oh you want to go and be an independent, what network is going to offer them $100 million to sign them, and put their games on the air? Plus what university is going to give up being the B10 academic research dollars just because the athletic department wants to make an extra $10 to $20 million a year.

The haves in the B10 is going to float the idea of unequal sharing, the have nots will give some, more money on the bowls and the BB tournament, but they can't afford to give in the whole show and take less upfront. Doing so will sink many of their athletic departments.
 

So Michigan is treating to do something 11 years from now, they got the private equity deal killed along with USC, it was reported in the Athletic that Michigan said, "We do not need this money, and will leave the conference if the deal goes through" the deal would have also tied up their media rights until 2046.

Again, treating to do something and then actually doing it are two different things.
 

I personally know Jordan, this is posturing as Michigan has zero intent of allowing PE deal to happen which is enough to shut this down.

Jordan has been very outspoken on a lot of topics and does a great job repping the schools best interest but this is just messaging to let the big ten commish know they aren’t messing around. There is zero possibility of Michigan leaving the Big Ten
 
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Remember the Big Ten gets to cash in again on new media rights before this GOR expires and I'll bet it nearly doubles in 2030-31 and the Big Ten will start negotiating in 2028.

Michigan and SC only have to fight this thing off for 18-24 months and then it'll be a distant memory when they all realize they're going to get that extra $100M annually instead of as a one time infusion.
 
I personally know Jordan, this is posturing as Michigan has zero intent of allowing PE deal to happen which is enough to shut this down.

Jordan has been very outspoken on a lot of topics and does a great job repping the schools best interest but this is just messaging to let the big ten commish know they aren’t messing around. There is zero possibility of Michigan leaving the Big Ten
I don't think people understand just how difficult it would be for a school like Michigan even to go independent and making it work. ND has been that way for a century and has built up games with USC and the military academies that a school like Michigan would have to now do. Looking at Washington State and Oregon states football schedules and they are all over the place, Washington State gets Washington, Ole Mss, Virginia and Oregon State, the rest are Mac and MWC teams, Oregon State is the same way, they played Cal, TT, Oregon, Houston and WS. Michigan or any team leaving the B10 would be in the same boat, without a doubt, teams would be willing to play Michigan, but with schedules the way the are set now, its going to be difficult finding the dates to matchup to schedule games. I suppose a school like Michigan would look towards the ACC or B12 and work out a ND type deal, getting 5 games a year from that conference and then play there other sports there, but they are going to be losing a lot of media money unless they can get a stand alone media deal of their own.

I think both Michigan and USC were using their power to block the outside interest deal, those schools do not need the money as much as other conference schools do and therefore were willing to stand up and complain about it.
 
I don't think people understand just how difficult it would be for a school like Michigan even to go independent and making it work. ND has been that way for a century and has built up games with USC and the military academies that a school like Michigan would have to now do. Looking at Washington State and Oregon states football schedules and they are all over the place, Washington State gets Washington, Ole Mss, Virginia and Oregon State, the rest are Mac and MWC teams, Oregon State is the same way, they played Cal, TT, Oregon, Houston and WS. Michigan or any team leaving the B10 would be in the same boat, without a doubt, teams would be willing to play Michigan, but with schedules the way the are set now, its going to be difficult finding the dates to matchup to schedule games. I suppose a school like Michigan would look towards the ACC or B12 and work out a ND type deal, getting 5 games a year from that conference and then play there other sports there, but they are going to be losing a lot of media money unless they can get a stand alone media deal of their own.

I think both Michigan and USC were using their power to block the outside interest deal, those schools do not need the money as much as other conference schools do and therefore were willing to stand up and complain about it.
Agreed. It would be damn near impossible to find distribution for major sports, let alone non-revs. It's a non-starter.

You can squint and see a path where it works in football (because you can sell UM-OSU and SC-Notre Dame in alternating years) but there isn't another league that is going to take their non-revs and get them anywhere near what they're making in the Big Ten.
 
Agreed. It would be damn near impossible to find distribution for major sports, let alone non-revs. It's a non-starter.

You can squint and see a path where it works in football (because you can sell UM-OSU and SC-Notre Dame in alternating years) but there isn't another league that is going to take their non-revs and get them anywhere near what they're making in the Big Ten.
Michigan is also obsessed with tradition and legacy.

They are doing the right thing fighting this as hard as possible but leaving really isn’t on the table. Good news is that without Michigan the PE deal isn’t happening
 
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Michigan is also obsessed with tradition and legacy.

They are doing the right thing fighting this as hard as possible but leaving really isn’t on the table. Good news is that without Michigan the PE deal isn’t happening
What I found interesting was the money break down of this new deal, Michigan, PSU and OSU would be getting $150 million, USC and a few others would be getting around $130 million while the rest of the conference schools would be getting $100 million. So it does sound like unequal revenue is on the table, at least as part of this deal. It will be interesting to see if they look to do the same thing when they are negations for their next media deal.
 
I personally know Jordan, this is posturing as Michigan has zero intent of allowing PE deal to happen which is enough to shut this down.

Jordan has been very outspoken on a lot of topics and does a great job repping the schools best interest but this is just messaging to let the big ten commish know they aren’t messing around. There is zero possibility of Michigan leaving the Big Ten
So you really believe the Big Ten will remain together and do equal revenue sharing for the foreseeable future?
 
What I found interesting was the money break down of this new deal, Michigan, PSU and OSU would be getting $150 million, USC and a few others would be getting around $130 million while the rest of the conference schools would be getting $100 million. So it does sound like unequal revenue is on the table, at least as part of this deal. It will be interesting to see if they look to do the same thing when they are negations for their next media deal.
As part of this deal that most likely isn’t happening I agree but those figures were also just for the stupid PE one time payment. The actual media deal won’t have any issues
 
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What I found interesting was the money break down of this new deal, Michigan, PSU and OSU would be getting $150 million, USC and a few others would be getting around $130 million while the rest of the conference schools would be getting $100 million. So it does sound like unequal revenue is on the table, at least as part of this deal. It will be interesting to see if they look to do the same thing when they are negations for their next media deal.
We went from they won’t do unequal revenue sharing to it’s on the table in 72 hours! Progress!
 
So you really believe the Big Ten will remain together and do equal revenue sharing for the foreseeable future?
Yep, together 100%. Media deal equal sharing also 100%, could see some additional payouts for teams making the playoffs or NCAA tourny though at some point in the next 5-10
 
So you really believe the Big Ten will remain together and do equal revenue sharing for the foreseeable future?
Equal MEDIA revenue, yes.

I think they'll split other sources (CFP, NCAAT shares) based on those earning them getting a bigger share. I don't think the PE deal happens.
 
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