Cy-Hawk: Pre-Dual Thread

Based on what I saw this weekend best probability of bonus points are:
1. 285 (likely)
2. 197 (likely)….let see how his blast double works against Elams length and how Endene does on bottom
3. 157 (depends on who wrestles for IA)
4. 184 (50/50 bonus)

W/o injury or a 7 point move by someone I don’t there is any bonus outside the 4 matches above.
These early season meets always get a little crazy, i could see frost not handling his first time to 33 well and getting bonused. Not likely but stuff happens. I could see gaitan deciding not to defend his legs and get funky with kennedy and get bonused. Iowa probably didn't have Peterson getting cradled and pinned by bouzakis on their bingo card. With the 3 point takedown it only takes 2 takedowns, ride out and escape to major.
 
History has shown us in this dual:

Toss ups go to Iowa
End of the period scoring goes to Iowa
Momentum goes to Iowa and they upset us at one weight in the match

Until we break through, Iowa deserves to always be favored even in years where on paper it looks even.

Boy I hope this is the year!!!
 
In all likelihood, we won't see the best lineups for either team. Who of the following doesn't wrestle will likely decide the dual. Evan, Ech?, Vinnie, Rocky, Williams, Keuter. Couple that we how either team may shuffle and all our predictions go out the window. Going to be fun!
 
In all likelihood, we won't see the best lineups for either team. Who of the following doesn't wrestle will likely decide the dual. Evan, Ech?, Vinnie, Rocky, Williams, Keuter. Couple that we how either team may shuffle and all our predictions go out the window. Going to be fun!
Don't know enough on Iowa's side.

No reason to think Evan won't go, he seems to be right on track to get down to weight by then. Same with Rocky, we all know he's on a pitch count this year so no surprise he didn't wrestle on Friday. Ech/Yonger probably on a bit of a pitch count early this year as well, so don't think Ech is a question mark. Vinnie was the only one I can think of that maybe got dinged up a bit in the invitational, but we're in good shape either way there if Frost goes.
 
We’ve got the team to do it, will need to be at our best. Here’s the way I see it.

125 - toss up - I like Stevo against Dean off of the scale, wonder if they use DeLuca if he looks good today.
133 - Iowa favored - should be Evans first match of the year down to 33, makes me nervous.
141 - ISU slightly favored - Ech should handle Bailey on their feet, can’t let it get to the mat where Bailey is best.
149 - ISU favored - regardless of Paniro or Frost, we should win this. Iowa guy will be stingy either way. Will learn about this weight for them this weekend.
157 - toss up - actually think Williams has the higher ceiling but Vinny can win this match.
165 - Iowa favored - love what I’ve seen from Euton but Caliendo has proven he’s top 3 at this weight.
174 - Iowa favored - bad style match up for us, though MJ looks bigger and stronger this year.
184 - Iowa favored - actually think Angelo wrestles a similar style to Dean, he’s just a notch above. Title contender, very stingy and strong.
197 - ISU favored - if they do wrestle Endene I’m looking for Rocky bonus.
285 - ISU favored - there will be talk on the Iowa side of Keuter winning this match, Yonger slams the door on that.

Iowa is favored in 4, we are favored in 4, gotta win the toss ups or hope we can steal one of the others.

I think the two biggest favorites are Iowa at 174 and ISU at 197 (assuming Endene).

We can win this. Let’s go!!
125 after this weekend / they need to give DeLuca some real consideration to replace Peterson/
 
Don't know enough on Iowa's side.

No reason to think Evan won't go, he seems to be right on track to get down to weight by then. Same with Rocky, we all know he's on a pitch count this year so no surprise he didn't wrestle on Friday. Ech/Yonger probably on a bit of a pitch count early this year as well, so don't think Ech is a question mark. Vinnie was the only one I can think of that maybe got dinged up a bit in the invitational, but we're in good shape either way there if Frost goes.
My concern with J Frost is, is he managing weight for the possibility of 49 or would he be prepping for 157?

Always tough to manage weight for 49 and bumping up to go against a top 10 guy.
 
Pinero is always a wildcard. You never know what kind of a match he's gonna wrestle.
 
My concern with J Frost is, is he managing weight for the possibility of 49 or would he be prepping for 157?

Always tough to manage weight for 49 and bumping up to go against a top 10 guy.
I assume Paniro is our guy at 149. He beat Frost in the wrestle-off and hasn't lost any matches.
 
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My concern with J Frost is, is he managing weight for the possibility of 49 or would he be prepping for 157?

Always tough to manage weight for 49 and bumping up to go against a top 10 guy.
It's a good question. I'm assuming Plan A is for Vinnie to go but if he wasn't available for some reason, I don't know exactly where Jacob's weight is at. I'd be curious what he weighed in at Friday. If he is/was planning on going 149 for CKLV, then he would have been no higher than 155.9 to make it down per the descent plan rules by then.

Regardless, I've seen enough of Jordan Williams to say I'd pick Frosty even if he's giving up a few pounds. Assuming Williams is a go that is. He only wrestled the one match at National Duals (got smoked by Kannon Webster) then Voinovich got the next two.
 
Any chance Brands Bros shuffle bump anyone? I know I saw some talk of bumping Ferrari 197 in the offseason and putting in Arnold for the dual, but I would assume that's not happening with how Endene looked this weekend.
 
These early season meets always get a little crazy, i could see frost not handling his first time to 33 well and getting bonused. Not likely but stuff happens. I could see gaitan deciding not to defend his legs and get funky with kennedy and get bonused. Iowa probably didn't have Peterson getting cradled and pinned by bouzakis on their bingo card. With the 3 point takedown it only takes 2 takedowns, ride out and escape to major.
My point exactly Iowa didn’t show they could get 1 TD let alone 2 TD against top wrestlers. Never know but I really doubt all of sudden they are going to break out next week.

I will guarantee someone will lose next Sunday that is a favorite. More than likely there could be 2 or more. If you look objectively at the two teams (BTW, Stevo did beat Peterson last year but seems like people are trying to ignore that) right now you have to give ISU the slight advantage. Fortunately, the meet won’t be won on paper and will come down to ISU finishing their shots because they will probably have at least a 3-1 advantage on shots taken.

Should be a classic and I can’t weight.
 
Tom Brands knows his job security is tied to annually beating ISU. (See “Jim Zalesky”)

Keuter will be wrestling.
 
It's a good question. I'm assuming Plan A is for Vinnie to go but if he wasn't available for some reason, I don't know exactly where Jacob's weight is at. I'd be curious what he weighed in at Friday. If he is/was planning on going 149 for CKLV, then he would have been no higher than 155.9 to make it down per the descent plan rules by then.

Regardless, I've seen enough of Jordan Williams to say I'd pick Frosty even if he's giving up a few pounds. Assuming Williams is a go that is. He only wrestled the one match at National Duals (got smoked by Kannon Webster) then Voinovich got the next two.
He did beat Seth Mendoza who is a stud, but was wrestling up for sure since he will be redshirting.
 
Block will beat Paniro handily just because history has shown that to be the case.
 

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