Waye Terry can't be considered a miss. He got hurt and could not compete anymore. Jantz had no line and his coach sucked. Lanning was never a quarterback. He was a linebacker that could pass.
Zeb Noland misses out on starting job at NDSU
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Waye Terry can't be considered a miss. He got hurt and could not compete anymore. Jantz had no line and his coach sucked. Lanning was never a quarterback. He was a linebacker that could pass.
His first year we had Osemele, Hicks, and Farniok playing on the OL. All those guys were solid.
IMO Noland was just in a tough spot to succeed with his skill set here. He seems like pocket passer with a big arm, but what ISU needed (and still currently needs, unfortunately) is a QB who can extend the play when blocking breaks down.
When it becomes apparent that you're not the guy, and you REALLY want to be the guy, I will not begrudge a player to transfer somewhere they think they have a better shot as soon as they can.
The old attitude that players "owe" the schools something bugs me. They don't "owe" the school jack s***. Time is limited for athletes, so they gotta do what they gotta do. Yeah it sucks when a guy with talent leaves your favorite school, but tough luck. We're not the ones trying to make a career out of it.
Here's the deal with ISU QBs. Until very recently, Tiller was the only QB commit who held multiple offers from other P5 programs. As Tiller exemplifies, that isn't a guarantee of success but it sure increases the odds. Our best years occurred when we lucked into NFL caliber QBs, i.e. Seneca and Sage, who didn't have other options to play QB elsewhere. I hope CMC continues to sign QBs other programs want, because I believe that's necessary for consistent success.
I agree! If Jantz wasn't so turnover prone, that season would have been MUCH better!!
People forget that we were 3-0 when Jantz hurt his foot at UCONN. That kept him in the pocket and the turnovers skyrocketed until he got benched against A&M. Who knows what happens if he stays healthy.
We basically recruit the same type of guys and people expect different results. Arnaud couldnt hit an open man to save his life, go back and watch that Kstate game in kansas city.
We get a 3 star dual threat QB and expect them to develop into a star. It just never happens. They either A. get the crap kicked out of them and end up being too scared to play. or B. Never develop but play a few games due to injuries and they suck. I think Purdy has been the best of all the guys listed but we will see. I have no idea why Re-al mitchell hasnt been moved to a position where we can utilize his speed, keeping him at QB doesnt make sense to me, he is too short.
We get a 3 star dual threat QB and expect them to develop into a star. It just never happens. They either A. get the crap kicked out of them and end up being too scared to play. or B. Never develop but play a few games due to injuries and they suck. I think Purdy has been the best of all the guys listed but we will see. I have no idea why Re-al mitchell hasnt been moved to a position where we can utilize his speed, keeping him at QB doesnt make sense to me, he is too short.
I would say we have had a million times better results in having former QBs moving to different positions. Lanning, Leonard Johnson, Montgomery, Deshaunte Jones
And yet Arnaud set the school record for pass completion percentage in a career and a season while at Iowa State. He held it until Kyle Kempt broke the career mark and Purdy broke the season mark.
An odd thing about that. Kempt's career mark is .667 and Purdy's season mark is .664, which makes you wonder how you could have a .667 career mark without doing better than .664 in at least one season. Maybe Kempt is a special case cause he never played one full season.
Not to say that your assessment is wrong (because he did have an amazing game vs Iowa : 4 TDs vs 0 ints), but in that 3-0 start, he had 6 TDs and 6 INTs -- I think it was a preview of things to come (he ended the year with 10 TDs and 11 INTS). Interestingly enough, we were 3-0 the next year & he had 6 TDs to 4 INTS. He ended the year with 13 TDs vs 12 INTs (as a healthy player). Even in his amazing performance against Baylor (5TDs to 1 INT), his inability to hang on to the ball ended up being the killer in that game (like it was throughout his career)! In fact most, if not all, of our QBs during that era suffered from Fumble-itis.
He also started the UConn game something like 0-3 with 3 INTs so it wasn't just a hurt foot thing.
Jantz was almost someone who just needed to not have anything told to him at all so he didn't have to think about it.
I think considering Waye Terry was a Juco and ended up behind Flynn and Love on the depth chart one could consider him a miss, but I’m pickin nits.
There was a Dom DeLira in there who actually got beat out for his High School QB spot before even making it to ISU lol
Yes. He lost the starting job to Clemson's big QB recruit. The guy is a five star and #1 QB in the country - DJ Uiagalelei
