Would like to see at Lard and Jacobson in

Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by cyclonefan1983, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. cyclonefan1983

    cyclonefan1983 Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    1,704
    40
    48
    Ratings:
    +120 / 6 / -0
    at the same time and let them go to work and we could get more offense rebounds
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. allfourcy

    allfourcy Well-Known Member

    Apr 26, 2012
    4,737
    227
    63
    Ratings:
    +1,201 / 96 / -0
    I would like to see him try it in spurts but am I guessing that we would need to be defending in a zone? MJ guarding the ‘4’ might be pushing it. Before anyone criticizes, I realize man-to-man is our bread & butter, and rightly so, but when a team starts rolling like TCU was, why not try a little zone for a few possessions and switch it up. Even if they can shoot the three doesn’t mean it wouldn’t slow em up a little.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  3. baller1

    baller1 Active Member

    Apr 10, 2006
    881
    27
    28
    Male
    WDM
    Ratings:
    +79 / 3 / -0
    I’ve been asking for this since the Iowa game. There are going to be teams in the tournament (Kentucky, Michigan State, Iowa) where we may need to go big for a while. Prohm seems dead set on 4 guards all game so I doubt we see it. Would be nice to see Jacobsen and Lard both going after the rebounds and getting us some extra possessions with all the jumpers we take.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Disagree Disagree x 2
  4. ForbinsAscynt

    ForbinsAscynt Well-Known Member

    Dec 8, 2014
    1,728
    315
    83
    Male
    Ratings:
    +1,264 / 122 / -0
    Would love to see it but I’m sure Prohm has seen it and there is a reason its not done in games.
     
  5. Tre4ISU

    Tre4ISU Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2008
    25,404
    1,563
    113
    Ninja
    Estherville
    Ratings:
    +5,010 / 267 / -5
    Because we can't guard the ball the way it is and Jacobson provides next to zero help defense on the interior.

    It wouldn't work.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. isuno1fan

    isuno1fan Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2006
    19,796
    705
    113
    Clive, Iowa
    Ratings:
    +2,085 / 455 / -25
    We did it once early on and it wasn’t good but that was before Cam started playing better.
     
  7. amishclone

    amishclone Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2014
    1,502
    154
    63
    Male
    Entrepreneur
    Ratings:
    +628 / 51 / -2
    To be fair, this is the same Prohm that calls timeouts to quiet down Hilton...
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Dumb Dumb x 1
  8. isucy86

    isucy86 Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2006
    1,995
    167
    63
    Ratings:
    +614 / 118 / -0
    #8 isucy86, Feb 10, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2019
    Right now we are a one trick pony - we win when we shoot well. Our defense with 4 guards is OK but we give up way too much dribble penetration for playing 4 guards. Our quickness should keep opponents out of the paint. Also our defense doesn't disrupt opposing offenses. We don't make them uncomfortable.

    IMO playing Lard and Jacobson could help our defense and offense. On D Jacobson and Lard combined could clog the paint. Jacobson the physical guy & Lard the rim protector. Jacobson is a stretch 4 from a defensive perspective.

    On offense having Lard & Jacobson play high/low post could create more space for jump shooters. Also in games where we struggle offensively we become one dimensional chucking up 3's. Yesterday was a great example. TCU goes on a 28-4 run and we don't get any paint points. Jacobson & Lard also provide a formidable rebounding duo and toughness.

    Not saying Jacobson/Lard should start, but 2 post guys might make a difference in upcoming games. KSU has Wade & Mawein, OU has Doolittle, McNease and Manek, UT goes with Hayes, Osetkowski and Sims, WVU Harris, Ahmad and Konate.
     
  9. IASTATE07

    IASTATE07 Well-Known Member
    SuperFanatic SuperFanatic T2

    May 30, 2016
    5,286
    1,037
    113
    Ratings:
    +7,280 / 268 / -0
    One of the dumbest narratives on this board.
     
    • Agree Agree x 11
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  10. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2010
    46,871
    6,732
    113
    Ankeny
    Ratings:
    +29,992 / 2,346 / -1
    Those teams are saying the same thing that they'd have to go small against us
     
  11. Lineup

    Lineup Active Member

    Jan 7, 2017
    233
    46
    28
    Male
    Ratings:
    +317 / 90 / -3
    Lard and Conditt
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. isucy86

    isucy86 Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2006
    1,995
    167
    63
    Ratings:
    +614 / 118 / -0
    That is true, but it depends if you can impose your style of game on them. Our 4 guard offense didn't work so well against the Hawks in December at CH. Maybe at Hilton it would have been a different story. But that's the point of the original poster- have the ability to go big if the game dictates.

    We made Cordel Pemsel look like an All-American because:
    1. He played with attitude and effort that we didn't match.
    2. He or Cook took our smaller defenders to the paint for easy baskets. When we doubled down that left guys like Moss/Baer open for 3's.
    I believe a 4-1 is our best team the majority of the time, but there will be games where a lineup of Lard, Jacobson or Conditt will give an opponent problems. There a lot of top 20 teams that make a lot of 3's by playing 2 posts and 3 guards.
     
  13. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2010
    46,871
    6,732
    113
    Ankeny
    Ratings:
    +29,992 / 2,346 / -1
    Using a rivalry game vs a team with a chip on their shoulder because we didn't offer any of them is not a good way to judge it IMO
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. BillBrasky4Cy

    BillBrasky4Cy Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2013
    4,097
    1,205
    113
    Ratings:
    +6,962 / 246 / -0
    JFC
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. WoodCy

    WoodCy Member

    Feb 28, 2014
    77
    24
    8
    Project Manager- Well Dri
    Atkins, IA
    Ratings:
    +97 / 1 / -0
    You can't run Lard and Jacobsen at the same time because you don't have a sub. This is where the loss of Solomon is hurting us. Our only option for a bigger front line is to run Conditt at the 5 and move Lard to the 4. Another option is to run Talley with Lard or Jacobsen.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. isucy86

    isucy86 Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2006
    1,995
    167
    63
    Ratings:
    +614 / 118 / -0
    Why not? Iowa did play with a little extra at CH but I don't think it was because ISU didn't recruit them. They played with intensity because it is their style of play. They get the ball in the paint, shoot a lot of 2's and free throws. IMO they also played physical and with attitude against ISU because they knew it would take us out of our game. A good strategy because it worked.

    Last time I looked, most top 20 teams play with a "chip on their shoulder" the vast majority of their games. That's how they win conference titles and make deep runs in the NCAA Tournament.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  17. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2010
    46,871
    6,732
    113
    Ankeny
    Ratings:
    +29,992 / 2,346 / -1
    It's their Super Bowl
     
  18. isucy86

    isucy86 Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2006
    1,995
    167
    63
    Ratings:
    +614 / 118 / -0
    That might be true if people were saying we should start Lard & Jacobson and each play 30+ mpg. What I am saying and I think the OP was calling for was playing Lard and Jacobson together maybe 10-15 minutes of game time. If it creates issues for an opponent, then maybe they play more minutes together.

    I also don't see a situation where Lard and Conditt would play together- either Jacobson & Lard or Jacobson & Conditt.

    One interesting thing from Saturday's game- Jacobson played a really solid game but ended up with the 5 highest minutes because he and Lard share 40 minutes.
     
  19. isucy86

    isucy86 Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2006
    1,995
    167
    63
    Ratings:
    +614 / 118 / -0
    #19 isucy86, Feb 11, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019
    I'll take winning the Super Bowl every year! I don't see Tom Brady complaining. That argument is not of a competitor, but someone looking for excuses.
     
  20. OPButtrey

    OPButtrey Active Member

    Nov 21, 2010
    482
    88
    28
    Ratings:
    +306 / 12 / -0
    We may see this next year unless Prentiss Nixson is so good that they need to start him and stay with the 4 guard lineup.
     

Share This Page