You’re leaving me no choice but to question your ability to reason.
It is futile to argue who is/was the better coach. Hoiberg was perfect for the situation ISU MBB was in then, and Prohm seems pretty perfect for what ISU needs now.
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Let’s just stop this Prohm vs Hoiberg disccusion....the argument goes nowhere
Fred did a great job rebuilding the program, no one is arguing against that. Once his stock blew up from doing that, he was his own worst enemy. The coach you have in your head ceased to exist.Fred who had never coached, turned around a program that was in the sewer in one year. Handed a well established program with brand recognition to Prohm. Left behind enough talent for Prohm to take it to the next level.
Fred did a great job rebuilding the program, no one is arguing against that. Once his stock blew up from doing that, he was his own worst enemy. The coach you have in your head ceased to exist.
Did you notice Fred’s low NBA buyout? Fred’s salary isn’t what killed recruiting, it was Fred himself. That doesn’t improve even if we had paid him more than the Bulls.Four straight NCAA tournaments under Fred, in Prohms third year, we will not make the tournament.
Sucks that we did not have the money to afford him and give him a massive contract. If we had, the program would have continued to grow and gone deep in march. I think Fred would have eventually got the 4 & 5 star recruits from High School.
All that is in the past, I believe in Prohm, lets see what happens.
Did you notice Fred’s low NBA buyout? Fred’s salary isn’t what killed recruiting, it was Fred himself. That doesn’t improve even if we had paid him more than the Bulls.
Fred would not have made the tournament this year. Perhaps he got out before he had to face the music of his refusal to recruit. Both Fred and Prohm share blame for this being a down year.
Four straight NCAA tournaments under Fred, in Prohms third year, we will not make the tournament.
Sucks that we did not have the money to afford him and give him a massive contract. If we had, the program would have continued to grow and gone deep in march. I think Fred would have eventually got the 4 & 5 star recruits from High School.
All that is in the past, I believe in Prohm, lets see what happens.
If we had the Money to afford Fred, would you let him go and hire Prohm. I would not have.
Fred left, because he knew ISU would not pay him what he deserves, because Jamie kept saying after his first contract increase, this is the most we can afford. I bet after contract negotiations he was discouraged which showed in the recruiting. So he made sure to have the NBA clause, because they ended up paying him.
Let’s put it this way, I wouldn’t have wanted JP to match the Bulls offer even if we could . I have enough confidence in the program to think we don’t need to pay that much for a guy that had stopped recruiting and was willing to string along ISU. The coach you have manufactured in your head left by 2014.If we had the Money to afford Fred, would you let him go and hire Prohm. I would not have.
Fred left, because he knew ISU would not pay him what he deserves, because Jamie kept saying after his first contract increase, this is the most we can afford. I bet after contract negotiations he was discouraged which showed in the recruiting. So he made sure to have the NBA clause, because they ended up paying him.
Let’s put it this way, I wouldn’t have wanted JP to match the Bulls offer even if we could . I have enough confidence in the program to think we don’t need to pay that much for a guy that had stopped recruiting and was willing to string along ISU. The coach you have manufactured in your head left by 2014.
Yes, give me Prohm. And Fred didn’t leave because of money.
My brother was on deans list
Four straight NCAA tournaments under Fred, in Prohms third year, we will not make the tournament.
Sucks that we did not have the money to afford him and give him a massive contract. If we had, the program would have continued to grow and gone deep in march. I think Fred would have eventually got the 4 & 5 star recruits from High School.
All that is in the past, I believe in Prohm, lets see what happens.
It’s as though you don’t realize scholarships are more than one year.So once he stopped caring, he won 28 games and a big 12 championship , then followed it up with another big 12 championship and a number #3 Seed. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Because he loved HS recruiting so much?I think Fred would have eventually got the 4 & 5 star recruits from High School.
Both Fred and Prohm were and are top tier college coaches. I love Fred more than any coach ever at ISU. The situation at the Bulls just has too many hurdles to expect any coach to overcome. Heck, even the great Calipari failed at the Pro level (note sarcasm). Prohm is proving he is just as capable as Fred. Too bad for ISU Fred had other aspirations that didn't include ISU. And that is not a slight towards Prohm. The both of them represent (ed) ISU admirably. In Fred's defense his record was just plain unreal. But, here we are. Prohm is the guy.
He might not make it to New Years at this rate. They’ve checked out on Fred. He’s had enough success that he will always have a HC job if he wants one, but I wonder if he will ever be able to have the same success as he had here. If that becomes the case, he will have followed Tim Floyd’s career to a T.
Four straight NCAA tournaments under Fred, in Prohms third year, we will not make the tournament.
Sucks that we did not have the money to afford him and give him a massive contract. If we had, the program would have continued to grow and gone deep in march. I think Fred would have eventually got the 4 & 5 star recruits from High School.
All that is in the past, I believe in Prohm, lets see what happens.