Irving at ISU was like a high schooler who's talented but doesn't really have a great fit for a position.
With some NFL coaching and time to fill out he looked night and day when with the Cowboys.
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Irving at ISU was like a high schooler who's talented but doesn't really have a great fit for a position.
With some NFL coaching and time to fill out he looked night and day when with the Cowboys.
They were awesome...until they had to put those god awful white numbers on the front. That ruined them, wish they could’ve just done no numbers on the front or maybe small numbers on the collar.
Agreed. His game against Iowa that year was the most dominant I’ve seen without recording a tackle. His only stat that game was a fumble recovery on a bad snap, but he was insanely disruptive the entire game. Him and Dobbins were hitting Tate (then Manson once Tater decided to stop Steve Paris with his helmet) every dropback. Definitely got into the heads of the QB’s.
I must have read the post incorrectly lol. I just thought you meant at any position
He’s saying the NFL doesn’t draft many RB’s in the first round any more.
Not sure I agree with the view on Reggie Hayward. He started smaller as a DE at ~20lbs, but played over 250 as a senior and had a very dominant season as he was big enough to stuff the run and quick enough to get to the QB. He had 7 sacks his senior season, and at one time was in the top 3 all time for ISU. He did have 8.5 sacks or more (high of 10.5 one year) three consecutive years in the NFL, but their season is longer. He stuck there 9 years too, but I wouldn't say his NFL star power was that much different than his ISU star power, at least as a senior when he was big enough.
Looks like Irving may still have "potential" with the Raiders (or other)? He has been reinstated by NFL. https://justblogbaby.com/2020/10/18/david-irving-perfect-fit-raiders/
One of Irving's vices, cannabis. Personally I've got no problem w NFL players wanting or using cannabis. It likely is a great pain relief treatment for injuries, aches/pains. Irving however still has a lot to prove that the weed (or other demons) don't control him. Maybe he makes it again in NFL, maybe not?
Yeah, not sure what the idea of Hayward not being that great at ISU came from. In the 25 years of the Big 12 (and I'll assume many years prior in the Big 8), ISU's had exactly one first team all Big 12 defensive end, and that was Hayward. As a reference, in 2005 Berryman was Honorable Mention. Looks like that trend will change, but Reggie was not some under the radar guy in college.
Who said he was “not that great”? As I said, he was good, he was all conference, but he wasn’t an All American or a first round draft choice. He was no Myles Garrett or Chase Young, pick your favorite college stud DE from an endless list.
Putting on muscle in the NFL helped him a lot. And given the level of competition, 8.5/10.5/8.5 sacks three consecutive years in the NFL is better production than he had in college.
Well said, sometimes we forget how many good defensive ends there have been in college football. Hayward was fun to watch tho
