Why no FT's at the end?

[cmjh10]

I am confused why Babb wasnt able to shoot FT's at the end of the game. My roommate and I were talking and when somebody fouls someobdy else on an inbounds play, they get to shoot if they are in the bonus. But Babb didnt because he didnt have possession? Still confused about this. If anybody can explain, I would greatly appreciate it.

Oh well, on to Baylor. Im expecting a crazy atmosphere and a great game.

 

[xboxfever]

The refs don't know the rules evidently.

 

[ISUFan22]

On the Clyburn foul with no possession there were shots. On the foul against Babb there were none.

Why?

OSU was gagging on ref schlong before the game.

 

[CysRage]

The refs listened and responded to Travis Ford's ********. /thread

 

[spierceisu]

The announcers on TV said it was a player control foul, but I only thought that only applied to an offensive foul?

 

[cyfan964]

The announcers on TV said it was a player control foul, but I only thought that only applied to an offensive foul?

I'm guessing since they had the ball out of bounds, and we never gained possession, it was considered an offensive foul, much like a charge.

 

[CycloneKC]

I agree. They got to shoot 2 free throws when Clyburn came over back. Same play Nash came over Babbs back no free throws?

Makes no sense

 

[drunkstepfather]

Per some Iowa Boys Basketball officials at the bar I was at, the Babb foul with no shots was due to ISU not having "team control of the ball". As in, Oklahoma State was inbounding, Babb steps in to steal but never actual had the ball in his control when fouled.

 

[Cycsk]

Babb didn't have possession of the ball, so it wasn't a back court player control foul with automatic 1&1 free throws.

 

[Cycsk]

I agree. They got to shoot 2 free throws when Clyburn came over back. Same play Nash came over Babbs back no free throws?

Makes no sense

They were in the bonus, we weren't.

 

[kingcy]

I would rather take a shot at a 3 then a 1 and 1.

 

[CycloneKC]

OSu didn't have ball yet when we shot it and Clyburn came over back.

 

[xboxfever]

They were in the bonus, we weren't.

That foul put ISU in the bonus.

 

[Cycsk]

My question is:

If we didn't have control of the ball (and the foul happened before Babb even touched the ball), why didn't we get to take it out in front of our bench? The ball never got into play, so shouldn't the change of possession take place at the point where they inbounded the ball rather than where the foul occurred?

 

[Cycsk]

That foul put ISU in the bonus.

So, the bonus would apply to the next foul, not that one. I wish it weren't so.

 

[CycloneJoe]

Nobody has posses the ball after a shot is taken

 

[MJ271]

Sorry guys, but they actually did get the call right. Now referring to the call earlier, I don't know if that one was right

 

[CycloneKC]

A foul is a foul. Stupid rule. Reward the team with free throws regardless

 

[hoopitup]

The announcers on TV said it was a player control foul, but I only thought that only applied to an offensive foul?

You don't shoot FT on a player control foul. But, at the same time, in order for a player control foul to occur that has to be possession of the ball (I think). ON a team control fould, which is what this should have been, there are no FT either.

So, the right call by the officials to not let Babb shoot FT, but poor job that they didn't know it in the first place. Poor job by the announcers too calling it player control. Still sucks for us, regardless.

 

[Cycsk]

OSu didn't have ball yet when we shot it and Clyburn came over back.

But, they were already in the bonus, so they get the free throws for that reason, not having the ball.

Two different rules being applied.

1. In the bonus, any foul results in free throws. Clyburn's foul.
2. Player control fouls in the backcourt result in free throws, if you have possession (which Babb didn't), regardless of whether you are in the bonus.