Who will be the Big 12 Regular Season Champion?

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Who will be the best team in the Big 12 (MBB) this year?

  • Kansas

    Votes: 86 53.4%
  • Texas

    Votes: 31 19.3%
  • Baylor

    Votes: 28 17.4%
  • West Virginia

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Oklahoma State

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 12 7.5%

  • Total voters
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cyfan92

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Iowa State slated at #148... Prepare for darkness

Big 12 according to the best CBB writer in America:

Tier 1:
#4 KU
#10 Texas
#14 Baylor

Tier 2:
#26 OSU

Tier 3:
#40 Tech
#45 WVU
#48 OU

Tier 4:
#86 KSU
#120 TCU
#148 ISU

New Big 12 additions:
#11 Houston
#36 BYU
#67 UCF
#122 Cincy

Potential Big 12 members:
#8 Memphis - potential NIT matchup
#29 Arizona
#42 San Diego St
#62 Colorado
#82 Arizona St
#103 Utah

Others:
#25 Xavier - potential NIT matchup
#44 Va Tech - potential NIT matchup
#59 Iowa
#63 Creigthon
#72 Drake
#99 Nebraska
#111 UNI
 

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Building from the roundup provided by @cyfan92 … All ISU opponents, by rank. Check out that mega-set of sub-200s. Sheesh!

4. Kansas*
10. Texas*
8. vs. Memphis (pending)**
14. Baylor*
25. vs. Xavier (Preseason Tip-Off)
26. Oklahoma State*
40. Texas Tech*
45. West Virginia*
48. Oklahoma*
44. vs. Virginia Tech (pending)**
59. Iowa
63. at Creighton (Big East/Big 12 Alliance)
78. Oregon State
86. Kansas State*
90. vs. Missouri (Big 12/SEC)
120. TCU*
233. Southeastern Louisiana
235. Jackson State
289. Kennesaw State
307. Grambling
348. Alabama State
353. Ark-Pine Bluff
358. Chicago State
* Big 12 game, round-robin
** Potential Preseason Tip-Off final/3rd place
 
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Building from the roundup provided by @cyfan92 … All ISU opponents, by rank. Check out that mega-set of sub-200s. Sheesh!

4. Kansas*
10. Texas*
8. vs. Memphis (pending)**
14. Baylor*
25. vs. Xavier (Preseason Tip-Off)
26. Oklahoma State*
40. Texas Tech*
45. West Virginia*
48. Oklahoma*
44. vs. Virginia Tech (pending)**
59. Iowa
63. at Creighton (Big East/Big 12 Alliance)
78. Oregon State
86. Kansas State*
90. vs. Missouri (Big 12/SEC)
120. TCU*
233. Southeastern Louisiana
235. Jackson State
289. Kennesaw State
307. Grambling
348. Alabama State
353. Ark-Pine Bluff
358. Chicago State

* Big 12 game, round-robin
** Potential Preseason Tip-Off final/3rd place
So we should win at least 7 games this year...nice!
 
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The floor HAS to be 7 wins without significant events derailing the pre-season...

Ceiling may be 9-10 wins. 70% of the Big 12 games will likely be Quad 1 games.. Brutally hard
Yeah just looking at the Big 12 slate and where they're ranked, we can maybe hope for home wins vs TCU and K-State, otherwise it will have to be upset city for any others, home or away.
 

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The floor HAS to be 7 wins without significant events derailing the pre-season...

Ceiling may be 9-10 wins. 70% of the Big 12 games will likely be Quad 1 games.. Brutally hard

Anything beyond 10 is gravy.
People should keep in mind that the staff willingly chose those much-needed sub-300 games. They know what the team is gonna be and that wins will be almost impossible to come by otherwise.

7 is the floor, 10 should be the goal, and anything beyond that is gravy.
 
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3 Big 12 teams in Top 8 of 1st AP Top 25 Poll:




Baylor is overrated imo. They lost 4 starters. Yeah they added some good pieces, but i highly doubt the players they signed will come close to replacing the production from the 4 players they lost.
 
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Anything beyond 10 is gravy.
People should keep in mind that the staff willingly chose those much-needed sub-300 games. They know what the team is gonna be and that wins will be almost impossible to come by otherwise.

7 is the floor, 10 should be the goal, and anything beyond that is gravy.

100%. No excuses for losing any of the buy games, and we should be able to squeeze at least 3 wins out of league play. TCU and K-State at Hilton and at least 1 other.
 

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Ken Pomeroy has his pre-season rankings finalized now.
He’s projecting Kansas and Baylor to tie for 1st in the conference. Kansas is ranked 3rd overall and Baylor is ranked 4th.
ISU is ranked 113th, with a predicted final record of 13-17 and 4-14 in the conference (10th place). 151st in project offensive efficiency and 91st in projected defensive efficiency. Like others have said, when we win, we’re going to win ugly.
We finished last year ranked 179th in his model, fwiw.
In any case, if we finish 13-17/4-14, I would absolutely take that and feel like we’re on the right trajectory.
 
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Ken Pomeroy has his pre-season rankings finalized now.
He’s projecting Kansas and Baylor to tie for 1st in the conference. Kansas is ranked 3rd overall and Baylor is ranked 4th.
ISU is ranked 113th, with a predicted final record of 13-17 and 4-14 in the conference (10th place). 151st in project offensive efficiency and 91st in projected defensive efficiency. Like others have said, when we win, we’re going to win ugly.
We finished last year ranked 179th in his model, fwiw.
In any case, if we finish 13-17/4-14, I would absolutely take that and feel like we’re on the right trajectory.
That seems like a pretty reasonable step forward. I hope it looks like it too, on the court.
 

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Ken Pomeroy has his pre-season rankings finalized now.
He’s projecting Kansas and Baylor to tie for 1st in the conference. Kansas is ranked 3rd overall and Baylor is ranked 4th.
ISU is ranked 113th, with a predicted final record of 13-17 and 4-14 in the conference (10th place). 151st in project offensive efficiency and 91st in projected defensive efficiency. Like others have said, when we win, we’re going to win ugly.
We finished last year ranked 179th in his model, fwiw.
In any case, if we finish 13-17/4-14, I would absolutely take that and feel like we’re on the right trajectory.

Wow, Pomeroy likes the B10 with 8 teams in the top 31 (Indiana is actually underrated IMHO).

I'm also surprised Tech is ahead of Texas with the talent and depth Texas has. I just see Texas being old Tech on steroids as they'll have 8-10 elite players that can get in your face even more without fear of fouling out.

It'll be interesting to see how this season plays out.
 

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Ken Pomeroy has his pre-season rankings finalized now.
He’s projecting Kansas and Baylor to tie for 1st in the conference. Kansas is ranked 3rd overall and Baylor is ranked 4th.
ISU is ranked 113th, with a predicted final record of 13-17 and 4-14 in the conference (10th place). 151st in project offensive efficiency and 91st in projected defensive efficiency. Like others have said, when we win, we’re going to win ugly.
We finished last year ranked 179th in his model, fwiw.
In any case, if we finish 13-17/4-14, I would absolutely take that and feel like we’re on the right trajectory.

I'd 100000000% sign up for 13-17
 
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Until we play the first game of each season, it's my firm and humble opinion the Cyclones are winning the regular season title each and every year. A coaching change has not changed my outlook.
LOL. I like your style. I was going to pick the Cyclones also. I think I will.

ISU #1!!!

Until further notice.
 

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The floor HAS to be 7 wins without significant events derailing the pre-season...

Ceiling may be 9-10 wins. 70% of the Big 12 games will likely be Quad 1 games.. Brutally hard
I am a homer and an optimist. I see floor at 10-21, likely at 12-19 or 13-18, best at 15-16.

We take the 7 gimmies, two other non-con (hopefully Mizzou and Iowa) and 3-4 conference home games (KSU, TCU and two upsets).
 

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Anything beyond 10 is gravy.
People should keep in mind that the staff willingly chose those much-needed sub-300 games. They know what the team is gonna be and that wins will be almost impossible to come by otherwise.

7 is the floor, 10 should be the goal, and anything beyond that is gravy.
I am a homer and an optimist. I see floor at 10-21, likely at 12-19 or 13-18, best at 15-16.

We take the 7 gimmies, two other non-con (hopefully Mizzou and Iowa) and 3-4 conference home games (KSU, TCU and two upsets).

I'm a homer, more of realist vs. optimist (in context of this conversation), and that's close to my analysis.

It's good to set low expectations from fan perspective, but some suggest the floor at 7 wins ... That seems like either anticipating a couple of losses from the sub-200 opponents, or not winning a single game in the rest of non-con or Big 12. Transitional season is going to be rough, but I hope it isn't THAT bad ... it isn't a floor, it's a crawlspace.
 
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