NFL: Who should Vikings pick up at QB?

[somecyguy]

The last two times the Vikings have made the playoffs has been with Christian Ponder and Teddy throwing for 200 yards per game.

I don't think Shaun Hill can take them to the Super Bowl (I wasn't one that thought Teddy could either, although their chances were definitely better with him there), but I do think he can lead them to the playoffs. They have 4 games against the Bears/Lions after all.

I'm a little surprised Ponder hasn't been mentioned. His biggest flaw when he was with the Vikes was he never threw down field. But he didn't have a lot of turnovers and he could operate a west coast like passing attack to compliment AP. I don't particularly like the thought of him under center again, but there are much worse options being discussed.

 

[Cloner007]

The last two times the Vikings have made the playoffs has been with Christian Ponder and Teddy throwing for 200 yards per game.

I don't think Shaun Hill can take them to the Super Bowl (I wasn't one that thought Teddy could either, although their chances were definitely better with him there), but I do think he can lead them to the playoffs. They have 4 games against the Bears/Lions after all.

I mean, anything is possible. I just find it kind of deflating to have so much hype heading into a season and it's now being led by a 36 yr old vet who is about as exciting as vanilla pudding. I think the Vikes should grab a Kaep/Geno Smith type, someone with some flare and at least a little mobility. Just my 2 cents.

 

[srjclone]

I mean, anything is possible. I just find it kind of deflating to have so much hype heading into a season and it's now being led by a 36 yr old vet who is about as exciting as vanilla pudding. I think the Vikes should grab a Kaep/Geno Smith type, someone with some flare and at least a little mobility. Just my 2 cents.

You shut your mouth. Vanilla pudding is great!

 

[AdamJGray]

Teddy was pretty well past the game manager point by the end of last year, and lead a clutch playoff drive only to have Walsh choke (which any kicker wearing purple would have done). That's a game-winning drive to me, in as much as the QB did everything necessary to get the win.

He was clearly moving past that based on this year's pre-season results. Shaun Hill at best is Teddy Bridgewater through the first 2/3rds of last year. That's Hill's ceiling, period. Not November Teddy. Not what we were seeing in the preseason. I think they can get to 9-7 with him, maybe 10-6 if he plays at his peak. But this was a team capable of much, much more.

I thought this team was capable of being what the Jets were under Sanchez. A NFC championship game team not ready to take the step to the Super Bowl because their passing game still wasn't there yet.

With Teddy out, I think this is a team that makes the playoffs and loses first round. There isn't a big difference there as neither is/was a guarantee of course.

Teddy Bridgewater in November last year (5 games):
3 TD's
3 INT's
188 yards passing per game

Those stats had to have ranked dead last by starting QB's for that month and they didn't get any better in December or playoffs. He averaged 185 yards per game in his last 11 games and was a check down machine. He was dead last in football at yards per completion.

 

[Bubbahotep]

Tebow, the dude can hit grounders, and catch pop ups.

 

[Cy$]

http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Vikings-interested-in-Mark-Sanchez-47078532

 

[AdamJGray]

I'm a little surprised Ponder hasn't been mentioned. His biggest flaw when he was with the Vikes was he never threw down field. But he didn't have a lot of turnovers and he could operate a west coast like passing attack to compliment AP. I don't particularly like the thought of him under center again, but there are much worse options being discussed.

Ponders stats the year they went to the playoffs weren't much different from Teddy's last year. His problem was he never took the next step and like you said, refused to throw down field.

 

[CTTB78]

The talking heads think Glennon is the best fit for the Vikes offense. Not so sure the Bama boy will be available.

 

[VikesFan22]

http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Vikings-interested-in-Mark-Sanchez-47078532

The article says he would be an immediate solution. I don't see how.

 

[srjclone]

Tebow, the dude can hit grounders, and catch pop ups.

 

[Al_4_State]

I thought this team was capable of being what the Jets were under Sanchez. A NFC championship game team not ready to take the step to the Super Bowl because their passing game still wasn't there yet.

With Teddy out, I think this is a team that makes the playoffs and loses first round. There isn't a big difference there as neither is/was a guarantee of course.

Teddy Bridgewater in November last year (5 games):
3 TD's
3 INT's
188 yards passing per game

Those stats had to have ranked dead last by starting QB's for that month and they didn't get any better in December or playoffs. He averaged 185 yards per game in his last 11 games and was a check down machine. He was dead last in football at yards per completion.

I'm thinking of December. He had a 3 game run against the Cardinals, Bears, and Giants where he was playing really well.

What it comes down to is that is basement performances are about all Hill is capable of, and if his improvement was what it appeared to be, the Vikes were there to take the next step. I'm not sure Hill is even a game manager. He's just there.

 

[Cydar]

Shane Falco

 

[Tre4ISU]

Do I trust Shaun Hill to lead game winning drives? No. Did you trust Teddy to do that? Not at this point in his career. He had one last year against the Bears.

Do I trust Hill to get out of trouble with his feet? No.

Hill is a game manager, just like Teddy. Which is why I think the Vikings will be fine. The Vikings were not winning because of Teddy Bridgewater. I'm not sure where this narrative came from but it's been odd to see it play out this past 24 hours.

I feel bad for Teddy, I wish we could have seen him improve this year, but I'm not putting stock into preseason for how it would play out for him. Sam Bradford was a machine last year in the preseason.

I never said Hill is going to be as good as Teddy. I just think he's the best option to start the season. He can do a lot of what Teddy did. Check down, use the PA pass when there, and let the defense/running game win the games. To think this team can't go to the playoffs with Shaun Hill is incorrect IMO.

Your logic fail because you assume his game to be static. It wouldn't have been, at all.

 

[Tre4ISU]

The last two times the Vikings have made the playoffs has been with Christian Ponder and Teddy throwing for 200 yards per game.

I don't think Shaun Hill can take them to the Super Bowl (I wasn't one that thought Teddy could either, although their chances were definitely better with him there), but I do think he can lead them to the playoffs. They have 4 games against the Bears/Lions after all.

If Hill plays against Arizona, he won't throw for 150 yards.

 

[HGoat]

I feel really bad for Teddy, but since when did he become this stud QB that the Vikings can't win without? He wasn't a top 20 QB last season. I know he's young and the hope is that he will improve, but they won games last year with their running game and defense. I think a veteran QB like Hill that has been in the franchise can come in and do what he needs to do for them to still go to the playoffs. I really do.

I couldn't agree more. Vikings fans and there "woe is me" attitude need to step away from the ledge.

 

[Dandy]

Trade for one of the Chiefs QBs. Nick Foles, Aaron Murray, Tyler Bray, Kevin Hogan.

 

[HGoat]

Any Vikings fan who thinks a 36 year-old washed up Shaun Hill is leading them to the playoffs is simply delusional. Do Viking's fans really think Hill can produce efficiently through a 16 game season and then into the playoffs on top of that? Yikes.

I'm not a vikings fan, but thats not the argument. With Teddy, AP and the defense were the reason games were won for the vikings. That doesn't change without him.

 

[AdamJGray]

Your logic fail because you assume his game to be static. It wouldn't have been, at all.

An assumption on your part.

 

[srjclone]

It's all speculation. But one thing is for sure. Teddy Bridgewater is better than Shaun Hill, and this injury does hurt the Vikings. How much Shaun Hill can salvage a game, is completely up in the air.

 

[somecyguy]

I'm not a vikings fan, but thats not the argument. With Teddy, AP and the defense were the reason games were won for the vikings. That doesn't change without him.

Disagree a little. That was the reason last season. By most accounts, Teddy had really stepped up his game this off season, which was reason to believe that scoring wouldn't be solely on AP's back this year. I know I'm really deflated because now they are right back into that situation. They got away with it last year, but it's tough to do again especially if the Packers are at full strength.