Which Iowa border state would you be most afraid of in a state vs state civil war?

[Beernuts]

That's why this is a hard discussion none of these states would actually divide and fight each other based on the state they live in. The divide would be urban vs rural

Honestly...probably like the rest of the country right now.

And although team urban has the population and gang experience, rural has all the food and energy resources. Thus if team rural can withhold the initial surge from the urbans, they will soon run out of food, which will lead to negotiations - and the urbans will become the workers for the rurals.

According to google 44% of our military personnel comes from rural areas - which have 17% of the population.

 

[KnappShack]

Ya but we have a worthless borderland nobody will miss that we can set a blaze and lay waste to as a sacrificial buffer. Then, we can retreat into the valuable heartland and mount a fierce resistance.

This will stretch Illinois's supply lines (they will quickly run out of money anyways). This is all hokeye country was ever good for. We can build a wall and quarantine off eastern iowa after the war. Two birds with one stone!

I'm here to broker peace.

I'll help negotiate a settlement to move the down state counties to Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, and Kentucky.

This would be a covert win for the New Illinois core of Chicago and the collar counties. The rest can deal with Gulfport, Danville, Peoria, Rock Island, Cairo, East St Louis, etc.

 

[JM4CY]

I'm here to broker peace.

I'll help negotiate a settlement to move the down state counties to Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, and Kentucky.

This would be a covert win for the New Illinois core of Chicago and the collar counties. The rest can deal with Gulfport, Danville, Peoria, Rock Island, Cairo, East St Louis, etc.

Let's just become allies and make Missouri deal with East St. Louis. Bastards.

 

[psycln11]

I went with Illinois. Just based on sheer numbers of foot soldiers they would have.

Illinois - Population, gangs, mob, etc.

 

[JM4CY]

Honestly...probably like the rest of the country right now.

And although team urban has the population and gang experience, rural has all the food and energy resources. Thus if team rural can withhold the initial surge from the urbans, they will soon run out of food, which will lead to negotiations - and the urbans will become the workers for the rurals.

According to google 44% of our military personnel comes from rural areas - which have 17% of the population.

The urban yuppies will probably pillage their local Costco's and come charging at us ruralites with yellow plastic kayaks.

 

[hoosman]

There actually was a border war with Missouri. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_War

 

[4theCYcle]

Early descriptions would be:
Wisconsin - number of guns, bunch of drunks
Illinois - sheer numbers
Missouri - good numbers, guns, and crazy people. - meth could be involved
Nebraska - could be hidden in them hills and spread out, could take awhile to find and possibly hidden, or we'd get bored 1/3 of the way across their state.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Illinois by a landslide. Population/GDP/manufacturing capability/access to Mississippi River and Great Lakes

It might take them a minute to get up and going but once they did then goodnight Iowa.

 

[cytor]

Honestly...probably like the rest of the country right now.

And although team urban has the population and gang experience, rural has all the food and energy resources. Thus if team rural can withhold the initial surge from the urbans, they will soon run out of food, which will lead to negotiations - and the urbans will become the workers for the rurals.

According to google 44% of our military personnel comes from rural areas - which have 17% of the population.

Plus the rurals cook the meth that the gangs are wanting.

 

[KnappShack]

Illinois by a landslide. Population/GDP/manufacturing capability/access to Mississippi River and Great Lakes

It might take them a minute to get up and going but once they did then goodnight Iowa.

A fleet of armed Rivians traversing the Mississippi and unleashing the dogs of war

 

[TruClone]

Only the top 3 wouldn't be on iowas team in a civil war. So I'm going illinois because I'm assuming with 4 or 5 times the population they would win without much actual strategy

A lot of that is in Chicago. Lots of flat land between there and Iowa. We could easily pick them off. The river towns along the Mississippi do not worry me.

 

[nfrine]

A fleet of armed Rivians traversing the Mississippi and unleashing the dogs of war

But not enough recharge stations...

 

[Rural]

Where are we sending all of our POWs? Fort Dodge (make them deal with it)?

That’d be a war crime.

 

[TruClone]

Would we have a strong enough navy to defend the river?

Depends if enough folk read Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. Although that would be beneficial for the Missourians near the appendage of Keokuk.

 

[cyco2000]

TLDR.

Would North Dakota use their nukes? If so, they win.

 

[Clonehomer]

Honestly...probably like the rest of the country right now.

And although team urban has the population and gang experience, rural has all the food and energy resources. Thus if team rural can withhold the initial surge from the urbans, they will soon run out of food, which will lead to negotiations - and the urbans will become the workers for the rurals.

According to google 44% of our military personnel comes from rural areas - which have 17% of the population.

Yeah, but the rural being spread out would be easier to overwhelm piece by piece. You don’t have to go after a large group like you would if going into urban areas. You’d just slowly take what places you want based on resources needed.

 

[Althetuna]

Minnesota would be tougher than many think. Appearantly they abhor the grid system. There ain't a straight road in this state. I've been up here for nearly a decade and still need gps to find my way around

When I first moved up here I attempted to go to the local grocery store without gps. I drove for 20 minutes and without turning wound up back at my house?!

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Totally missed this last year.

 

[Al_4_State]

TLDR.

Would North Dakota use their nukes? If so, they win.

North Dakota borders Iowa?

News to me

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Early descriptions would be:
Wisconsin - number of guns, bunch of drunks
Illinois - sheer numbers
Missouri - good numbers, guns, and crazy people. - meth could be involved
Nebraska - could be hidden in them hills and spread out, could take awhile to find and possibly hidden, or we'd get bored 1/3 of the way across their state.

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