When did mankind forget the link between pollution and disease?

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BCClone

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Not exactly sure.
I love maps. It'd be fascinating overlaying other maps like insect patterns, rainfall, crops, etc to see if there are correlations.
See what things look like after a few years now of every summer being hazy in N Iowa due to Canadian wildfires. Wish those D bags would stop making it their annual summer thing.
 

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I think it likely that people polluting their own bodies with man-made fake 'food' will eventually be proven to be the cause of far more poor health and disease than environmental pollution. realfood-fake-food.jpg
 
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I think it likely that people polluting their own bodies with man-made fake 'food' will eventually be proven to be the cause of far more poor health and disease than environmental pollution. View attachment 134535
What's even more fascinating is to see the mega corporations behind most of this and even more influential; their investors. That's what is truly mind boggling.
 
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I think it likely that people polluting their own bodies with man-made fake 'food' will eventually be proven to be the cause of far more poor health and disease than environmental pollution. View attachment 134535
Scapegoating is a rampant problem used to veil the dangers of NUMEROUS physical and social threats. While having some merit, this is wrong in many, many ways.
 

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I think it likely that people polluting their own bodies with man-made fake 'food' will eventually be proven to be the cause of far more poor health and disease than environmental pollution. View attachment 134535
That is really a calorie issue, not a nutrient issue. Tons of highly processed foods contain lots of nutrients. The problem is they also have a lot more calories, and they are designed specifically to promote overeating. Fat people aren’t typically low in nutrients. And most of the issues we fatties suffer from are due to being fat, not the chemical composition of the food (outside of the excess calories).
 

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What resources are in short supply? There is plenty of food, but it's not equally distributed. There is plenty of space for people - drive across the country and note how much of it is empty.

Equally distributing food, allowing people to move to better locations, providing clean air and water - all have technical solutions. It's a breakdown of politics (as well as the "free market") that results in suffering. That's as far as I'll go to prevent getting it Caved.
Zero. We haven't even come close to outpacing necessary resources.
 
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That is really a calorie issue, not a nutrient issue. Tons of highly processed foods contain lots of nutrients. The problem is they also have a lot more calories, and they are designed specifically to promote overeating. Fat people aren’t typically low in nutrients. And most of the issues we fatties suffer from are due to being fat, not the chemical composition of the food (outside of the excess calories).
I would say the one thing that comes to mind about processed foods that is pretty harmful is the glycemic index spikes from the processed sugars and can cause insulin resistance. Also the saturated fats are pretty high, especially in vegan alternatives.
 
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Zero. We haven't even come close to outpacing necessary resources.
The elephant in the room is that we're using one (maybe more) of those resources at a level which is not sustainable, both from a supply aspect and a by-product aspect.
 

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Zero. We haven't even come close to outpacing necessary resources.

Many species have gone extinct because of man. Habitat loss, over-exploitation, not to mention climate change, and resources that are not renewable.

We're not talking Twinkies in the snack aisle at the grocery store.
 

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I would say the one thing that comes to mind about processed foods that is pretty harmful is the glycemic index spikes from the processed sugars and can cause insulin resistance. Also the saturated fats are pretty high, especially in vegan alternatives.
You're not wrong. I was admittedly being a bit pedantic when I said "nutrients." Technically that's stuff like vitamin A, C, B, calcium, iron, etc.

Calorie density due to added sugars and saturated fats are a problem. Those foods are also hyperpalatable, making it super easy to quickly consume more than the body can handle. Short term it's no big deal, but it builds habits that become chronic health issues over a few years.

And I know all this intellectually and still sit here with a BMI, waist measurement and age all within a point of each other...