What will this season be like?

Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by Cyrocks, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. Cyrocks

    Cyrocks Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2009
    I've read through a bunch of wrestling threads, and I get a lot of positive vibes from those threads and posts concerning the upcoming wrestling season for ISU.

    In all honesty, how do most of you knowledgable wrestling fans see this season playing out for the Clones?

    If ISU has the lead going into the last day of both the Big 12 and NCAA tournaments, do the Clones keep it?

    What kind of statement would you like the ISU team to make in the first ISU-Iowa dual meet?

    What will ISU's record be in dual meets?

    Which newcomer will make the biggest impact?

    DOOBERDAN New Member

    Aug 26, 2009
    As was the case for the last three years, I believe that if the guys wrestle to their abillities, they can win the National Championship. They should be able to whoop the Hawks with no problem! I am excited about our new coach, I liked Cael, but wasnt sure he was the right fit, didnt really see him getting our guys to be aggressive out there on the mat. I also really think that is the difference between the Hawks and Clones, Iowa wrestlers always seem to be more aggressive, not necessarily more skilled, but definatly more aggressive. Anyway, we have the potential to win, hopefully we can pull it off.
  3. CycoCyclone

    CycoCyclone Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2009
    Business Analyst
    The Iowa meet will tell us a lot about who we have. The fire and intensity should be very evident at that point.

    I expect Big XII champs and top 2 finish in the country.
  4. cyfanatic

    cyfanatic Well-Known Member

    Oct 18, 2006
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    After talking with Coach Jackson this past spring...I expect that our season will be filled with intensity from start to finish! That guy has some fire in him! I hope the team feeds off of his excitement!
  5. zach

    zach Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2006
    The Subs
    Looking forward to the season. Hopefully we are more aggressive than past years.

  6. wesley_w

    wesley_w Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2006
    Ames, Iowa
    #6 wesley_w, Nov 9, 2009
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2009
    I was just looking at the schedule and we only have five home meets. (not counting the Harold Nichols open). I'd have to look it up to see exactly how many we used to have but the schedule sure has been cut back in recent years.

    Edit: I guess I stand corrected. I have a 1985-86 media guide and we only had five home duals. Maybe I am thinking of the 70's but it seemed like at one time we had lots more than that. Or maybe I'm just getting old and forgetful.
  7. hawkeyescott

    hawkeyescott Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2008
    #7 hawkeyescott, Nov 9, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 9, 2009
    **** that thinking, with the team you have coming back I would expect a national title. You were right there last year, a couple of more wins here and there and things could have been very different last year.
  8. Rick

    Rick Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    I dont know about whooping up on the Hawks. Both teams are very deep and and equal in a lot of matches. I like Jackson's intensity and his ability to get his team instilled with it will make or break him. I know call me Captain Obvious.
  9. CycloneDaddy

    CycloneDaddy Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2006
    Anything less then the national title is failure.
  10. crash_zone

    crash_zone Well-Known Member

    Apr 10, 2006
    Tiffin, IA
    I'm still in shock that Cael left. Ending the season in the #1 spot would go a long way in helping me to forget that unfortunate episode.
  11. rhillary

    rhillary Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2007
    Quality Engineer
    Plainfield, IL

    Cael leaving was by far the most unexpected thing I could've thought up for ISU athletics.

    As for expectations this year, I expect to be in the hunt for a national championship, as well as another Big 12 championship. This team CAN win a NC, but I am not sure if they will...
  12. cloneswillwin

    cloneswillwin Member

    Sep 27, 2009
    Ames via York NE :-(
    A lot of ifs still out there, Iowa IS the team to beat. Dual would be cool, tourney more important and we all know theres a big difference between the two.

    125 - How good will Long be? Good to see that Tyler couldn't even make the finals of Iowa's wrestle offs, but unless Long was consistently out wrestling him at ISU that doesn't bode well for us. National Tourney we'll have to wait and see, right now it has to be a wash.
    133 - Fanthorpe - I think he's better than Dennis, but hasn't wrestled that way. This is a wash for tourney points.
    141 - Nick gets us extra tourney points, hopefully a repeat of his brothers senior year and a NC. Big advantage in tourney points over Iowa
    149 - Important that Mitch scores as many points as possible in the tourney, Advantage Iowa in tourney points, Mueller goes out an all-american his senior year.
    157 - ???? Don't see either team scoring many tourney points - Wash
    165 - Reader again I think is better than Morningstar, but again it hasn't worked out that way. Wash for tourney points.
    174 - Burk - Huge advantage Iowa in Tourney points.
    184 - Ward - Huge advantage Iowa in Tourney points.
    197 - Varner - Huge advantage ISU in Tourney points
    HWT - Zabriskie - Wash for Tourney points.

    I hope that Jacksons fire can in 1 year turn us into an agressive wrestling team and we have a wrestling championship that our wrestlers wrestle above their seeds, don't know the last time we consistently did that.

    Remember last year the NC was close because a few of the Iowa wrestlers fell off the map (Falck, Tsirtis and Boershel)
  13. hawkeyescott

    hawkeyescott Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2008
    Clark has to redshirt this year and that is why he wasn't in the wrestle offs.

    Also I would say Iowa has a huge advantage and not just an advantage in scoring points at 149. Metcalf will probably score in the 20's while Mueller scores around 8 to 12 if he is an AA, because Metcalf would score 16 just by being a national champ and that doesn't include advancement points or bonus points.

    Otherwise I agree, even though I think Marion could surprise some people at 141.
  14. cloneswillwin

    cloneswillwin Member

    Sep 27, 2009
    Ames via York NE :-(
    Friday wrestle offs showed McDonough over Clark and Saturday showed McDonough over Krutsinger. I may be wrong but I thought in wrestling you only had to set out a year if the college you were transfering from contested it??

    Any whoo, I'll take a wait and see. Big year for both schools with the amount of seniors on both teams. If Jackson is the coach that I think he is, we may finally have enough fire to wrestle above our seeds when it counts. Maybe Iowa will suck it up at the tourney again this year, last year should have been a blowout and ended up being close.

    We'll know more after midlands :smile:
  15. heyguy85

    heyguy85 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2007
    With 5 great wrestlers (Fanthorpe, Gallick, Reader, Varner, and Z) to go along with 5 that have a lot to prove, it will be interesting. We are definitely in contention for Big 12/NC titles, but we also could be 3rd in the Big 12 and 5th at Nationals. It's a good feeling knowing that we have a good overall team capable of being National Champions.
  16. hawkeyescott

    hawkeyescott Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2008
    Yes, Clark did wrestle but this is his first year after leaving ISU and he has to sit out this year, he never used his redshirt so he is using it this year so he doesn't lose that year of eligibility. Brands had him in there for the competition and nothing more since he isn't eligible to wrestle this year.
  17. woodie

    woodie Well-Known Member

    Apr 10, 2006
    national champs,nothing less.
  18. singsing

    singsing Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2007
    Clark did participate in the wrestle offs and lost badly.
  19. hawkeyescott

    hawkeyescott Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2008
    I know he wrestled, see my post above this, and he lost 5-1 to McDonough who will be starting at 125, I wouldn't call that badly.
  20. cloneswillwin

    cloneswillwin Member

    Sep 27, 2009
    Ames via York NE :-(
    I want a national championship as bad as anyone, have been a season ticket holder for a long time. We should compete for it, and I'm optimistic that Jackson can help us turn our ways into a more offensive team.

    Not sure he can turn our Douglass / Sanserson legacy of defensive position into offense in one year. Iowa will have to wrestle the tourney below expectations and we'll have to wrestle above. I can tell you that I've followed wrestling for a long time and last year was one of the few that Iowa wrestled below, the bad part is we gave away a NC because we didn't wrestle at or above.

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