And it's the same school colors to boot!Oregon State is definitely a step above WSU. But then we have two "OSU"s in the conference. Too confusing. Maybe we could have them designated OSU(e) for Okie Lite and OSU(w) for the Beavs.
And it's the same school colors to boot!Oregon State is definitely a step above WSU. But then we have two "OSU"s in the conference. Too confusing. Maybe we could have them designated OSU(e) for Okie Lite and OSU(w) for the Beavs.
The Holy War is CyHawk on crack. Our rivalry with Iowa is tame compared to BYU-UtahUtah-BYU is not much different than Iowa State-Iowa in some ways. BYU and Iowa have more historical success and massively inflated egos.
Imagine if Ohio State and Michigan had decided to join the SEC ten years ago or something and Iowa was below us. I know ISU fans would talk a lot of smack about those tables turning. Then if our league took a blow and we were forced to seek an invite to their league, we would be pushing back. Same for the Utes.
What do we do if Ohio State wants to join the new Big 12? (t)OSU?Oregon State is definitely a step above WSU. But then we have two "OSU"s in the conference. Too confusing. Maybe we could have them designated OSU(e) for Okie Lite and OSU(w) for the Beavs.
Way better nickname too.The Holy War is CyHawk on crack. Our rivalry with Iowa is tame compared to BYU-Utah
How about the Beavers and the Mullets?Oregon State is definitely a step above WSU. But then we have two "OSU"s in the conference. Too confusing. Maybe we could have them designated OSU(e) for Okie Lite and OSU(w) for the Beavs.
Uh, I believe Knight is Stanford's biggest donor.USC and UCLA are much different than Oregon. Apples and oranges comparison.
Phil Knight's money only benefits Oregon, not anybody else in the conference.
Quite frankly I'm not worried about it.
USC and UCLA are much different than Oregon. Apples and oranges comparison.
Phil Knight's money only benefits Oregon, not anybody else in the conference.
Quite frankly I'm not worried about it.
I, respectfully, disagree. The UCLA/USC add was motivated by the OUT add to maintain dominance. So, in essence, they didn't 'wait'. They 'reacted'.Because the Big 10 has been very good at not getting excited and adding a bunch of teams right away. They sit back, add a team, then wait two to three years and add another. Phil knight could get pissed in two years and straight up offer the big 10 money to add them. So I could see the Big 10 sitting back and waiting, then poaching Oregon in 3 years.
Realistically Knight could throw a couple $B at Oregon, and they could join the Big10 and forego media dollars for several years without losing ground.Five years ago did you think USC and UCLA would be in the Big Ten?
The SI report I read yesterday says that Phil Knight, one of the top 30 richest people in the world and Oregon mega-benefactor, wants Oregon in the Big Ten, and if that doesn't work out, the SEC is his next choice. Knight is going to be moving whatever he can move to make that happen, and he will probably eventually be successful.
The wake of those actions might be relatively peaceful, or they might be turbulent and wreak havoc on anything in the way (i.e. the Big 12 if Oregon joins up for a couple of years). Not worth the risk, IMO, for a short-termer. Do you think Phil Knight cares what happens to the Big 12?
The "bring them in" mentality is misguided. Oregon isn't ISU...they don't have to panic every time realignment rolls around. They can wait it out because they have a billionaire benefactor that can string them along and open doors for them. If Oregon would even consider a Big 12 invite, I can't imagine there is any way they would sign a long term GOR.
To be fair, they haven't had a decade of going through this grind to humble them. They'll figure out where the fit soon.one thing I have noticed is how little self-awareness some of these pac 12 programs have
At Knight's net worth he could set up an endowment at Oregon that could fund their AD at Big 10 school levels without taking any Big 10 media dollars. I have no idea how badly he wants Oregon in the big 10, but if he wanted it that badly, he could do it. Oregon adds to the gross media contract without taking any media $. That's a huge benefit to the rest of the conference.USC and UCLA are much different than Oregon. Apples and oranges comparison.
Phil Knight's money only benefits Oregon, not anybody else in the conference.
Quite frankly I'm not worried about it.
Fine, Oregon can refuse our offer and be stuck in gutted PAC conference for the next few years at least. Jeez.Five years ago did you think USC and UCLA would be in the Big Ten?
The SI report I read yesterday says that Phil Knight, one of the top 30 richest people in the world and Oregon mega-benefactor, wants Oregon in the Big Ten, and if that doesn't work out, the SEC is his next choice. Knight is going to be moving whatever he can move to make that happen, and he will probably eventually be successful.
The wake of those actions might be relatively peaceful, or they might be turbulent and wreak havoc on anything in the way (i.e. the Big 12 if Oregon joins up for a couple of years). Not worth the risk, IMO, for a short-termer. Do you think Phil Knight cares what happens to the Big 12?
The "bring them in" mentality is misguided. Oregon isn't ISU...they don't have to panic every time realignment rolls around. They can wait it out because they have a billionaire benefactor that can string them along and open doors for them. If Oregon would even consider a Big 12 invite, I can't imagine there is any way they would sign a long term GOR.
I've been hearing a lot lately that Clemson really doesn't offer any value to the SEC since they already have South Carolina in the conference and Clemson won't up their TV money.People talk about Clemson as incredibly valuable, but I'm not convinced. If you look at their ratings over the years, given their crazy success and constant placement in good time and network slots, they have underperformed from a TV perspective. They are obviously a great program as long as Dabo is there and the SEC would love to have them, but they are team that draws OK in great slots in a market that SEC already owns. I'm sure SEC wants them and will add them, but I don't see the value being such that any network is going to pay a huge GOR price to get them early.
At Knight's net worth he could set up an endowment at Oregon that could fund their AD at Big 10 school levels without taking any Big 10 media dollars. I have no idea how badly he wants Oregon in the big 10, but if he wanted it that badly, he could do it. Oregon adds to the gross media contract without taking any media $. That's a huge benefit to the rest of the conference.
That’s dumb. Clemson is a national brand.I've been hearing a lot lately that Clemson really doesn't offer any value to the SEC since they already have South Carolina in the conference and Clemson won't up their TV money.
So is Oregon and yet…That’s dumb. Clemson is a national brand.
The SEC has A&M and yet….So is Oregon and yet…
I agree for the most part, but as always it has to make financial sense first and foremost. I can see where adding Clemson doesn't do much for the SEC since they already own that entire market and state.That’s dumb. Clemson is a national brand.