King should have been used at the 5 last night to adjust to Tech plus he is a really good rebounder.
Tre King minutes in 2nd half Vs TTU
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Iowa State vs. Texas Tech Box Score (PDF) - Iowa State University Athletics
Iowa State vs. Texas Tech Box Score (PDF)
what that doesn't tell us is how much better could we have done without him in there
We do know that osun has captured most tips this year, yet we have Bob out there for the OT tip.
The lipsey holmes and gabe turnover bonanza was definitely more damaging yesterday.
BUT! Jones's ceiling is so low vs someone like King and he's not exactly ADDING anything.
BUT! Jones's ceiling is so low vs someone like King and he's not exactly ADDING anything.
Some games, I agree. But not last night. When he made those two 1 & 1 free throws I thought we would survive. And he had another nice move. Osun was not good on defense at all. I don't blame TJ for playing Robert. There was a stretch there where King just ran into guys and fouled them. He needs to figure it out on defense because we really need his rebounding.
The Caleb>Osun missed pass that puts ISU up 7 likely seals it.
I can't think of a player that didn't look like they forgot how to play last night for that last 10 minutes.
Should have just thrown King into a quasi-box/1 deal on Obanor to at least make him work a little harder and slow him down and not give King anything complicated.
That's part of the free throw discrepancy for the entire team. We go through stretches of fouling by creating too much unnecessary contact away from the basket. Handful of those every game. Seems inconsequential at the time but by the end of the game it leads to the free throw disparity we're seeing. Difficult to overcome giving a team 10+ free points.
Closeouts and rotations are a tad slow (at least for stretches last night). Opponents are getting to the paint way too easy, causing our defenders to reach and really pressuring our bigs. Conversely, our offense was not pressuring the Tech's defense at all during Tech's comeback.
Osun should not be playing. King is questioning his decision. But, someone needs to leave to make room for next year's lightning-in-the-bottle.
I wasn't paying very close attention during a lot of Tech's run, so I certainly may have missed Jones's mistakes during that time. But I honestly thought that Rob played a ton better than he has lately. In his first stretch in the first half, he had several very nice defensive possessions as a rim protector. He had a few tip-outs for offensive rebounds and boxed out well to open up defensive rebounds. He even drained two free throws on a one-and-one. I don't think Robert Jones's play is probably anywhere near the top 5 reasons why we lost last night.
Agreed. Getting the lead back to 20+ that late in the game caused the entire team (coaches included) to let up. Have to think the first game with Tech played a small part of that mindset, they thought they could coast again.
King should be getting 100% of Jones's minutes.
+/- doesn’t show everything about an individual when they’re in the game. Bob is much worse than Osun. Osun didn’t particularly have a great game but outside of that, I think you could argue no one really did sans grill.
To me, king isn’t a 5 and TJ likes to play with four guards a lot (that could be a product of jaz not being available) as he likes to space the floor.
The key issue last night was ball handling, mental errors, and fouls (some that were legit on ISU and some that weren’t as well as for the other side too. The reds sucked all around).
King and Osun would have dunked that lob from Tamin. I don't know if Jones even looked at the basket. He looked like Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Along Came Polly just chucking it off the backboard "Let it rain"
Not nearly 100%. But some for sure. I’d love to know what they see in RJ to play him so consistently. I’d also like to know why our offense is so determined to be run through him. And I’d like to know why he hardly ever passes out of the post.
I don’t think we’re comparing Bob to Osun though, Osun seems to have only a certain amount of minutes to play.
The backboard would disagree with you. I’ve seen 3/4 court shots hit backboards softer than a BRE layup.
